[NSRCA-discussion] [Bulk] Re: Kline pump
Del
drykert2 at rochester.rr.com
Sun Jul 6 02:35:37 AKDT 2008
Hi Karl..
And of course you are correct as the bending of the moving part just adjusted the amount/volume. I didn't state that correctly.
Del
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From: Karl G. Mueller
To: General pattern discussion
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] [Bulk] Re: Kline pump
Del,
One thing I like to point out is that the "Kline" is not a pump
the same as the Perry.
It is a "Demand Regulator" that works on the negative pressure
from the carburetor. The "Kline" needs a pressurized tank to work,
while the "Perry" does not need the pressure and will work with an
open vent line to the tank. It does not need a closed fuelling setup
while the "Kline" does.
Karl G. Mueller
kgamueller at rogers.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Del
To: General pattern discussion
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 4:52 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Kline pump
After talking to the people I bought my Kline pump from they told me to bend the metal valve slightly to adjust the pressure and it worked perfect for me. So if you are not getting the pressure you want give them a call and they will talk you through it.
Del
----- Original Message -----
From: george w. kennie
To: jpavlick at idseng.com ; General pattern discussion
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Venus Engine Question
I once installed a Kline in my Focus which had a 150 2 Stroke in it and the pressure generated by that particular engine was too high, causing the thing to load up, so I installed an after-market needle valve in the pressure line and adjusted the available pressure to the tank and it seemed to work quite well.
G.
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From: John Pavlick
To: General pattern discussion
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Venus Engine Question
The Perry doesn't require the tank to be pressurized like the Kline does. On the other hand, I believe the Kline can be run with muffler pressure to the tank whereas the Perry needs crankcase pressure to the pump. This can be a pain if you don't feel like tapping the backplate of your engine. Either system can work very well or very poorly. You'll find that people will swear by either one but not necessarily both. I personally have had better luck with the Perry so that's what I use.
John Pavlick
J N Hiller <jnhiller at earthlink.net> wrote:
Jay, how does the Perry pump compare to a Kline?
Jim Hiller
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Jay Marshall
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:27 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Venus Engine Question
I used the Perry VP-30 and an APC 15-10 prop.
Jay Marshall
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of William C. Harden
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:55 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Venus Engine Question
Thanks. What prop are you using and what is the Perry Pump model number that you are using?
Bill
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jay Marshall
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:34 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Venus Engine Question
I added ½ oz. It will depend how heavy your servos are. I used a different fuel tank and moved it back to the wing tube to keep the CG constant. This necessitated a Perry pump.
Jay Marshall
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of William C. Harden
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:16 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Venus Engine Question
Jay,
Did you have to add weight to the tail to balance the plane? If so, how much weight did you add?
Bill
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jay Marshall
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:53 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Venus Engine Question
I use the stock muffler. The engine is mounted so that the muffler is at the bottom of the fuse. This puts the head at appx 8 o’clock.
Jay Marshall
-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of William C. Harden
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:20 PM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Venus Engine Question
Jay,
Are you using the stock muffler on the AX or something different?
Bill
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jay Marshall
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:24 PM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Venus Engine Question
Sound doesn’t win! Go with the AX – lots more power, more reliable. (I have both – and a Venus)
Jay Marshall
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Terry Beachler
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:19 PM
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Venus Engine Question
Hi Flyers,
I am planning to build a Venus II. The OS 120AX is suggested and also O.S. 120 Surpass 4C. Any thoughts from the group on choice. I'll be flying Sportsman. My buddy goofy Bob Wilson leans toward the 120AX. I am somewhat partial to 4 strokes. I like that V-8 sound and low end torque.
Terry Beachler
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