[NSRCA-discussion] Exper Class??

[Lance Van Nostrand]

Jerry,

It's easy to look past systems that work but think of it this way: Why change the oil in your car?  It's driving great so why mess with it.  No problems exist.

--Lance
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  From: Budd Engineering 
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  Lance, Derek, Dave, et al -


  What's the merit in having a rule to solve a problem that doesn't exist?


  Thx, Jerry




  On Feb 7, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Lance Van Nostrand wrote:


    Derek,

    The current system has been improved and probably needs further tweaking.  We have a 4 year rolling horizon so guys collecting 100 pts in this time are either in very large districts or are doing pretty well.  We have a current rule change in process to address those that collect points too fast.  There was a lot of effort to weigh the issues to come up with that rule. Scrapping the rules altogether would invite a lot more uncertainty. 
      I think the guys complaining about not being able to move down are just misinformed.  Section 8.1.2 of our rules allows anyone to fill out a form and move down.  There may be plenty of reasons why a guy might not want to do this, but rules barriers is not one of them.

    --Lance
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      From: Derek Koopowitz
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      Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:40 PM
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Exper Class??


      Since there are 12 AMA districts it really does take a majority to get a proposal through the contest board.  I also think that we really need to run this by the membership to ensure that they are behind a proposal like this - just because you and I and a few others think that we should do away with this rule doesn't mean that the majority of the membership feel the same way.


      On Feb 4, 2008 11:07 AM, Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net> wrote:

        Scrapping the mandatory advancement rule is an excellent approach. Where you when I submitted rules proposals in two different cycles to do just this? I could have used the support as it was soundly shouted down. I won't do that again. But it needs to be done. I'm one of those 67 year old flyers  trapped in Masters/FAI who can't move down where my present skill levels would be more appropriate. Don't know if I would choose to back a class, but anyone should have the option of flying the class most appropriate for them IMO. I think peer pressure would keep the trophy hounds from staying. One reason Masters is so crowded is ex FAI flyers who can't hack it with the top FAI guys anymore and move back to Masters where they can compete.

        Dave Burton



        From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Derek Koopowitz
        Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 1:47 PM
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        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Exper Class??



        There is a discussion going on the District 7 list at the moment about not forcing people to move up a class (using points).  Case in point is a pilot that was forced out of Intermediate into Advanced and has crashed 2 Angels Shadows due to "pilot error" (he admits it).  He is 67 years old and his skill levels just don't warrant him being in Advanced.



        Eric Henderson's last article in Model Aviation about the points system in the NSRCA just proves this issue - I'm in full agreement with Eric on this and would like to see the points system scrapped.  We definitely need to cater to the pattern pilot that is very uncomfortable flying a new class (they've pointed out of their current class) and would like to stay put until they feel more comfortable.  This can also happen if a new sequence is developed for their class and the pilot is uncomfortable flying it as well in a contest.  Shouldn't we allow them to move back a class until they feel comfortable with the new sequence (as Chris and Mike suggested)?



        I would hate to lose a pilot to pattern (and a long time supporter of pattern) because the system forced them to do something that they just aren't comfortable with doing.





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