[NSRCA-discussion] Exper Class??

[Ron Van Putte]

That never stopped the U.S. Congress!

Ron

On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Budd Engineering wrote:

> Lance, Derek, Dave, et al -
>
> What's the merit in having a rule to solve a problem that doesn't  
> exist?
>
> Thx, Jerry
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Lance Van Nostrand wrote:
>
>> Derek,
>>
>> The current system has been improved and probably needs further  
>> tweaking.  We have a 4 year rolling horizon so guys collecting 100  
>> pts in this time are either in very large districts or are doing  
>> pretty well.  We have a current rule change in process to address  
>> those that collect points too fast.  There was a lot of effort to  
>> weigh the issues to come up with that rule. Scrapping the rules  
>> altogether would invite a lot more uncertainty.
>>   I think the guys complaining about not being able to move down  
>> are just misinformed.  Section 8.1.2 of our rules allows anyone to  
>> fill out a form and move down.  There may be plenty of reasons why  
>> a guy might not want to do this, but rules barriers is not one of  
>> them.
>>
>> --Lance
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Derek Koopowitz
>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Exper Class??
>>
>> Since there are 12 AMA districts it really does take a majority to  
>> get a proposal through the contest board.  I also think that we  
>> really need to run this by the membership to ensure that they are  
>> behind a proposal like this - just because you and I and a few  
>> others think that we should do away with this rule doesn't mean  
>> that the majority of the membership feel the same way.
>>
>> On Feb 4, 2008 11:07 AM, Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net> wrote:
>> Scrapping the mandatory advancement rule is an excellent approach.  
>> Where you when I submitted rules proposals in two different cycles  
>> to do just this? I could have used the support as it was soundly  
>> shouted down. I won't do that again. But it needs to be done. I'm  
>> one of those 67 year old flyers  trapped in Masters/FAI who can't  
>> move down where my present skill levels would be more appropriate.  
>> Don't know if I would choose to back a class, but anyone should  
>> have the option of flying the class most appropriate for them IMO.  
>> I think peer pressure would keep the trophy hounds from staying.  
>> One reason Masters is so crowded is ex FAI flyers who can't hack  
>> it with the top FAI guys anymore and move back to Masters where  
>> they can compete.
>>
>> Dave Burton
>>
>>
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- 
>> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Derek Koopowitz
>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 1:47 PM
>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Exper Class??
>>
>>
>> There is a discussion going on the District 7 list at the moment  
>> about not forcing people to move up a class (using points).  Case  
>> in point is a pilot that was forced out of Intermediate into  
>> Advanced and has crashed 2 Angels Shadows due to "pilot error" (he  
>> admits it).  He is 67 years old and his skill levels just don't  
>> warrant him being in Advanced.
>>
>>
>> Eric Henderson's last article in Model Aviation about the points  
>> system in the NSRCA just proves this issue - I'm in full agreement  
>> with Eric on this and would like to see the points system  
>> scrapped.  We definitely need to cater to the pattern pilot that  
>> is very uncomfortable flying a new class (they've pointed out of  
>> their current class) and would like to stay put until they feel  
>> more comfortable.  This can also happen if a new sequence is  
>> developed for their class and the pilot is uncomfortable flying it  
>> as well in a contest.  Shouldn't we allow them to move back a  
>> class until they feel comfortable with the new sequence (as Chris  
>> and Mike suggested)?
>>
>>
>> I would hate to lose a pilot to pattern (and a long time supporter  
>> of pattern) because the system forced them to do something that  
>> they just aren't comfortable with doing.
>>
>>
>>
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