[NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs

[Keith Hoard]

What about the "Galloping Ghost"?  Man, I remember that one from the '28
Nats. . .

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Matthew Frederick <mjfrederick at cox.net>wrote:

> Pre-turnaround: Compensator and Bootlegger
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> Post-turnaround: Patriot (and all its variants)
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
> To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs
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>  Also, Steve Helm's Bootlegger... 1st design with fully enclosed tuned pipe
>> system..
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>> Tony Stillman, President
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
>> adriancwong at earthlink.net
>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:25 PM
>> To: General pattern discussion
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs
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>> Phil Kraft's Kwik Fli
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> From: billglaze <billglaze at bellsouth.net>
>>> Sent: Dec 15, 2008 3:02 PM
>>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs
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>>> Just before the Astro Hog, (designed by a friend of mine, Fred Dunn) ,
>>> and
>>> one of which I am currently building),there was Howard Bonner's Smog Hog,
>>> (note the name similarity) which won the 1956 Nationals in Dallas.  Good
>>> flying airplane, for it's time, (good enough to win) but couldn't compare
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>>> the Astro Hog, of which Fred always said:  "I don't know what the big
>>> deal
>>> is; it's just a low-wing Smog Hog."  Maybe.  But, it sure revolutionized
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>> the
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>>> contest world, at the time.  If you wanted to win, you had one.  Period.
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>>> Bill Glaze
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Lowe" <jonlowe at aol.com>
>>> To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs
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>>>  Astro Hog- 1st really successful low wing pattern plane.  Everything up
>>>> until then had been a high wing airplane.
>>>> Orion- by Ed Kasmirski  first really high performance pattern plane
>>>> Taurus- arguably one of the most built pattern planes of all times. At
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>>> one
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>>> point, everyone had built a "modified" Taurus.  The Top Flight kit,
>>>> excellent for its day, helped to make it popular.
>>>> The Phoenix 1-8 series.  Yeah, I know I'm prejudiced, but it really
>>>> established moderately swept wings as a standard. The Phoenix 5, 6, 7
>>>> and
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>>  8's were flown by most of the great US flyers, including Dave Brown, Mike
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>>  McConville, and others. I'm not including the Phoenix 9 and 10, because
>>>> they were never kitted, and were very early turn around style airplanes.
>>>> I have a 9, and my dad has the only 10 ever built.
>>>> I have to agree with the Kaos.  It was "everymans" pattern plane, and
>>>> still is today with Tower Hobbies .46 style version.
>>>>
>>>> Jon Lowe
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Bob Kane <getterflash at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 1:00 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs
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>>>> Kaos
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>>>> Bob Kane
>>>> getterflash at yahoo.com
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>>>> From: "Woodward, Jim (US SSA)" <jim.woodward at baesystems.com>
>>>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent: Monda
>>>> y, December 15, 2008 11:23:37 AM
>>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs
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>>>> Hi Guys,
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>>>> What do you think were some of the most breakthrough or pivotal pattern
>>>> designs? When I started there the Prophecy was top dog. A couple
>>>> years later the Smaragd was designed. I see a lot of planes have been
>>>> designed off the Smaragd platform. I think the PassPort is a heck of a
>>>> plane.
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>>>> What do you guys think have been some break-out designs over the
>>>> years that have transformed pattern aircraft design? In the last nine
>>>> years, I?d say the Smaragd was the most transformational plane.
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>>>> Thanks,
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>>>> Jim W.
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Keith Hoard
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