What about the "Galloping Ghost"? Man, I remember that one from the '28 Nats. . . <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Matthew Frederick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mjfrederick@cox.net">mjfrederick@cox.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Post-turnaround: Patriot (and all its variants)<br>
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Also, Steve Helm's Bootlegger... 1st design with fully enclosed tuned pipe<br>
system..<br>
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Phil Kraft's Kwik Fli<br>
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Just before the Astro Hog, (designed by a friend of mine, Fred Dunn) , and<br>
one of which I am currently building),there was Howard Bonner's Smog Hog,<br>
(note the name similarity) which won the 1956 Nationals in Dallas. Good<br>
flying airplane, for it's time, (good enough to win) but couldn't compare<br>
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the Astro Hog, of which Fred always said: "I don't know what the big deal<br>
is; it's just a low-wing Smog Hog." Maybe. But, it sure revolutionized<br>
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contest world, at the time. If you wanted to win, you had one. Period.<br>
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Bill Glaze<br>
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Astro Hog- 1st really successful low wing pattern plane. Everything up<br>
until then had been a high wing airplane.<br>
Orion- by Ed Kasmirski first really high performance pattern plane<br>
Taurus- arguably one of the most built pattern planes of all times. At<br>
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point, everyone had built a "modified" Taurus. The Top Flight kit,<br>
excellent for its day, helped to make it popular.<br>
The Phoenix 1-8 series. Yeah, I know I'm prejudiced, but it really<br>
established moderately swept wings as a standard. The Phoenix 5, 6, 7 and<br>
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8's were flown by most of the great US flyers, including Dave Brown, Mike<br>
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McConville, and others. I'm not including the Phoenix 9 and 10, because<br>
they were never kitted, and were very early turn around style airplanes.<br>
I have a 9, and my dad has the only 10 ever built.<br>
I have to agree with the Kaos. It was "everymans" pattern plane, and<br>
still is today with Tower Hobbies .46 style version.<br>
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Jon Lowe<br>
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From: "Woodward, Jim (US SSA)" <<a href="mailto:jim.woodward@baesystems.com" target="_blank">jim.woodward@baesystems.com</a>><br>
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Hi Guys,<br>
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What do you think were some of the most breakthrough or pivotal pattern<br>
designs? When I started there the Prophecy was top dog. A couple<br>
years later the Smaragd was designed. I see a lot of planes have been<br>
designed off the Smaragd platform. I think the PassPort is a heck of a<br>
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What do you guys think have been some break-out designs over the<br>
years that have transformed pattern aircraft design? In the last nine<br>
years, I?d say the Smaragd was the most transformational plane.<br>
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