[NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs

Matthew Frederick mjfrederick at cox.net
Mon Dec 15 16:41:24 AKST 2008


Pre-turnaround: Compensator and Bootlegger

Post-turnaround: Patriot (and all its variants)

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From: "Tony" <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:39 PM
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> Also, Steve Helm's Bootlegger... 1st design with fully enclosed tuned pipe
> system..
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> Tony Stillman, President
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> Phil Kraft's Kwik Fli
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>>From: billglaze <billglaze at bellsouth.net>
>>Sent: Dec 15, 2008 3:02 PM
>>To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs
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>>Just before the Astro Hog, (designed by a friend of mine, Fred Dunn) , and
>>one of which I am currently building),there was Howard Bonner's Smog Hog,
>>(note the name similarity) which won the 1956 Nationals in Dallas.  Good
>>flying airplane, for it's time, (good enough to win) but couldn't compare
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>>the Astro Hog, of which Fred always said:  "I don't know what the big deal
>>is; it's just a low-wing Smog Hog."  Maybe.  But, it sure revolutionized
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>>contest world, at the time.  If you wanted to win, you had one.  Period.
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>>Bill Glaze
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>>From: "Jon Lowe" <jonlowe at aol.com>
>>To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:41 PM
>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs
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>>> Astro Hog- 1st really successful low wing pattern plane.  Everything up
>>> until then had been a high wing airplane.
>>> Orion- by Ed Kasmirski  first really high performance pattern plane
>>> Taurus- arguably one of the most built pattern planes of all times. At
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>>> point, everyone had built a "modified" Taurus.  The Top Flight kit,
>>> excellent for its day, helped to make it popular.
>>> The Phoenix 1-8 series.  Yeah, I know I'm prejudiced, but it really
>>> established moderately swept wings as a standard. The Phoenix 5, 6, 7 
>>> and
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>>> 8's were flown by most of the great US flyers, including Dave Brown, 
>>> Mike
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>>> McConville, and others. I'm not including the Phoenix 9 and 10, because
>>> they were never kitted, and were very early turn around style airplanes.
>>> I have a 9, and my dad has the only 10 ever built.
>>> I have to agree with the Kaos.  It was "everymans" pattern plane, and
>>> still is today with Tower Hobbies .46 style version.
>>>
>>> Jon Lowe
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bob Kane <getterflash at yahoo.com>
>>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 1:00 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs
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>>> Bob Kane
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>>> From: "Woodward, Jim (US SSA)" <jim.woodward at baesystems.com>
>>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Monda
>>> y, December 15, 2008 11:23:37 AM
>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs
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>>> Hi Guys,
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>>> What do you think were some of the most breakthrough or pivotal pattern
>>> designs? When I started there the Prophecy was top dog. A couple
>>> years later the Smaragd was designed. I see a lot of planes have been
>>> designed off the Smaragd platform. I think the PassPort is a heck of a
>>> plane.
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>>> What do you guys think have been some break-out designs over the
>>> years that have transformed pattern aircraft design? In the last nine
>>> years, I?d say the Smaragd was the most transformational plane.
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>>> Thanks,
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>>> Jim W.
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