[NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling

Chad Northeast chadnortheast at shaw.ca
Tue Aug 12 10:14:36 AKDT 2008


Yes, I liked them as well in my previous Matrix, but some genious at Toyota decided that no slip rubber pads were just as good at restraining cargo....?

I will arrive at the field in Lindsay on the 29th sometime with Ivan in his motorhome, so see you then.

Chad

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascoe,Tim [Burlington]" <Tim.Pascoe at ec.gc.ca>
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:10 am
Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
To: chad at f3acanada.org, General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>

> That’s really too bad. It’s a great feature in my ’07 that I’ve 
> always thought would be a benefit in a lot of other vehicles as 
> well. See you in Lindsay at the trials…….
> 
>  
> 
> Tim
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-
> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Chad Northeast
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:59 AM
> To: General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
>  
> 
> Unfortunately the movable tie downs on the back of the rear 
> seats are gone in the '09 models.
> 
>  
> 
> Chad
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pascoe,Tim [Burlington]" <Tim.Pascoe at ec.gc.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:27 am
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> 
> > I have a Matrix, and it does indeed hold a full 2M with plug-
> in 
> > wings. Front passenger seat folds down flat (forward) and has 
> a 
> > handy little plastic tray on the back to catch the oil drips 
> :) 
> > Back seats also fold down flat individually, and the cargo 
> area 
> > and back of the seats are plastic as well. Another nice little 
> > feature is the set of moveable tie-downs in tracks running 
> back 
> > to front in the cargo area, to secure an airplane stand. You 
> can 
> > also put the plane in with a passenger, but you have to watch 
> > the prop between the front seats when you shoulder check!
> > 
> > Tim Pascoe 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-
> > discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of rcmaster199 at aol.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:10 AM
> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org; timsautopro at yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> > 
> > Is anyone looking at the Toyota Matrix as a potential 
> candidate? 
> > Seems 
> > that it should have enough room for one 2 meter model  
> > (plug in wings 
> > only), if the front seat lays down flat. I wanted to look at 
> > this as an 
> > alternative to the grand caravan I'm driving now, assuming the 
> > mileage 
> > was 50% better.
> > 
> > The PT Cruiser definitely will hold a full 2 meter. My friend 
> in 
> > FLA 
> > used one for several years. With the 4-banger, he was getting 
> > around 30 
> > mpg.
> > 
> > I had a Ford Windstar with the 3.8 and as Tim mentioned, it 
> blew 
> > its 
> > gasket at around 75K. Very distasteful experience.
> > 
> > MattK
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Alt <ed_alt at hotmail.com>
> > To: timsautopro at yahoo.com; General pattern discussion 
> > <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:02 pm
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> > 
> > So if I get another one, I might achieve a 20% success 
> rate?  
> > Thanks 
> > anyhow!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:29:34 -0700
> > From: timsautopro at yahoo.com
> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ed, I work on these things everyday, if you buy a mit don't 
> say 
> > I 
> > didn't warn you. :)
> >  
> > Dave, take a pencil eraser and clean the contacts on the 
> doors, 
> > btw has 
> > it blown the head gaskets yet? If not it most likely doesn't 
> > have the 
> > 3.8 engine.
> >  
> >  
> > By far the Scaryvans give far less trouble20than any other 
> > minivan in 
> > the same class. Look at it this way, a mommymobile isn't 
> > anything 
> > different than a pickup with a camper shell.
> >  
> > Tim
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net> wrote:
> > 
> > From: Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> > To: "'General pattern discussion'" 
> > <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 7:13 PM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I use a Ford Windstar to carry mine and as much as I thought I 
> > would 
> > dislike a minivan I got to say I like it a lot. I’ve had some 
> > electrical issues too but limited to interior lights, door 
> > locks, and 
> > power windows. I think it’s related to the sensors that tell 
> the 
> > computer when all the doors are closed. Mines a 1999 model so 
> > all that 
> > electrical stuff is getting kinda aged now. But with 150K it 
> > still runs 
> > great, burns no oil and gets 22-26 mpg depending on how heavy 
> > the foot 
> > is. I’ll get another one when it dies. Carries 2 planes, gear, 
> > luggage 
> > for my wife & I, tent, cooler, and lounge chairs to contest easily.
> > Dave Burton
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Ed Alt
> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 6:43 PM
> > To: jpavlick at idseng.com; General pattern discussion
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > All valid points.  The on
> > e thing I can't stand about the Dodge stuff 
> > though, and I'm on my 4th and last one now, is that they 
> > basically 
> > can't get the electrical gremlins out of the car.  Every 
> one of 
> > mine 
> > has acted as if it is haunted in some way.  I can explain 
> each 
> > of the 
> > unique behaviors that my 4 Caravan's have had, but it just 
> > shouldn't be 
> > so.  It's more stuff than is worth going into here, but 
> don't 
> > say I 
> > didn't warn you.  You get what you pay for.  Next 
> time, I'm 
> > looking at 
> > a Mitsubishi.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:36:59 -0700
> > From: jpavlick at idseng.com
> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Another vote for the Caravan. I can honestly say that I love 
> > mine too. 
> > The mileage figures everyone is claiming are right on. On 
> > my trip to 
> > the NATs this year I saw 24 - 26 with the A/C on (and I wasn't 
> > exactly 
> > driving at the speed limit). Around town you get about 18. 
> > PLENTY of 
> > room. I have Stow-N-Go on mine so I can fold the seats right 
> > into the 
> > floor. When you do this you can get full 8' sheets of plywood 
> > inside 
> > the van with the hatch closed.
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Add a hitch and you can tow an 18' big block Olds powered Jet 
> > boat. Try 
> > that with a Prius!
> > 
> > 
> > As for the "soccer mom" image - just ride your Harley to work 
> a 
> > few 
> > days a week to make up for it! LOL
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > John Pavlick
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Snaproll4 at aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jim,
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >       I have the Grand 
> Caravan.  Two 2 meter planes are not a 
> > problem 
> > even with a tent, chair and extra tool boxes.  I never 
> thought 
> > that I 
> > would drive a mini van, but it is actually a pretty nice 
> vehicle 
> > to 
> > drive all the time.  However,  the kids I work with 
> call it the 
> > " loser 
> > cruiser".  It's not real sexy,  but you get to haul 
> stuff from 
> > Home 
> > Depot too.  Highway mileage is 26 with the A/C on.  
> It's a 
> > better value 
> > than the Town and Country(but not as nice).
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated 8/11/2008 4:02:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight 
> Time, 
> > jim.woodward at baesystems.com writes:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Guys,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > I commute about 75 miles a day, then do about 100 miles of 
> > driving a 
> > weekend for practice so I am on the road a lot.  I am 
> thinking 
> > to down 
> > sizing one of my cars.  At this point, I’m thinking 
> about 
> > these three:
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Scion XB, 28, hwy mileage
> > 
> > Honda Fit, 34, hwy mileage
> > 
> > Chevy HHR, 30 , hwy mileage
> > 
> > $ these around $16,000
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Here is a nice website that allows you to do car by car 
> > comparisons.  
> > 
> http://scionbuyersguide.theautochannel.com/compare_details.php?car1=21667&car2=22687&car3=22711&car4=> 
> > =0
> > D
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > OR – is something like the Dodge Grand Caravan the way do 
> go, 
> > and 
> > that is the biggest bang for the buck? 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Any ideas would be great. 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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