[NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling

Chad Northeast chadnortheast at shaw.ca
Tue Aug 12 06:59:26 AKDT 2008 

Hi Tim,

Unfortunately the movable tie downs on the back of the rear seats are gone in the '09 models.

Chad

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascoe,Tim [Burlington]" <Tim.Pascoe at ec.gc.ca>
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:27 am
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>

> I have a Matrix, and it does indeed hold a full 2M with plug-in 
> wings. Front passenger seat folds down flat (forward) and has a 
> handy little plastic tray on the back to catch the oil drips :) 
> Back seats also fold down flat individually, and the cargo area 
> and back of the seats are plastic as well. Another nice little 
> feature is the set of moveable tie-downs in tracks running back 
> to front in the cargo area, to secure an airplane stand. You can 
> also put the plane in with a passenger, but you have to watch 
> the prop between the front seats when you shoulder check!
> 
> Tim Pascoe 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-
> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of rcmaster199 at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:10 AM
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org; timsautopro at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> 
> Is anyone looking at the Toyota Matrix as a potential candidate? 
> Seems 
> that it should have enough room for one 2 meter model  
> (plug in wings 
> only), if the front seat lays down flat. I wanted to look at 
> this as an 
> alternative to the grand caravan I'm driving now, assuming the 
> mileage 
> was 50% better.
> 
> The PT Cruiser definitely will hold a full 2 meter. My friend in 
> FLA 
> used one for several years. With the 4-banger, he was getting 
> around 30 
> mpg.
> 
> I had a Ford Windstar with the 3.8 and as Tim mentioned, it blew 
> its 
> gasket at around 75K. Very distasteful experience.
> 
> MattK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Alt <ed_alt at hotmail.com>
> To: timsautopro at yahoo.com; General pattern discussion 
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:02 pm
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> 
> So if I get another one, I might achieve a 20% success rate?  
> Thanks 
> anyhow!
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:29:34 -0700
> From: timsautopro at yahoo.com
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ed, I work on these things everyday, if you buy a mit don't say 
> I 
> didn't warn you. :)
>  
> Dave, take a pencil eraser and clean the contacts on the doors, 
> btw has 
> it blown the head gaskets yet? If not it most likely doesn't 
> have the 
> 3.8 engine.
>  
>  
> By far the Scaryvans give far less trouble20than any other 
> minivan in 
> the same class. Look at it this way, a mommymobile isn't 
> anything 
> different than a pickup with a camper shell.
>  
> Tim
> 
> --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net> wrote:
> 
> From: Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> To: "'General pattern discussion'" 
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 7:13 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I use a Ford Windstar to carry mine and as much as I thought I 
> would 
> dislike a minivan I got to say I like it a lot. I’ve had some 
> electrical issues too but limited to interior lights, door 
> locks, and 
> power windows. I think it’s related to the sensors that tell the 
> computer when all the doors are closed. Mines a 1999 model so 
> all that 
> electrical stuff is getting kinda aged now. But with 150K it 
> still runs 
> great, burns no oil and gets 22-26 mpg depending on how heavy 
> the foot 
> is. I’ll get another one when it dies. Carries 2 planes, gear, 
> luggage 
> for my wife & I, tent, cooler, and lounge chairs to contest easily.
> Dave Burton
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of 
> Ed Alt
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 6:43 PM
> To: jpavlick at idseng.com; General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> 
>  
> 
> All valid points.  The on
> e thing I can't stand about the Dodge stuff 
> though, and I'm on my 4th and last one now, is that they 
> basically 
> can't get the electrical gremlins out of the car.  Every one of 
> mine 
> has acted as if it is haunted in some way.  I can explain each 
> of the 
> unique behaviors that my 4 Caravan's have had, but it just 
> shouldn't be 
> so.  It's more stuff than is worth going into here, but don't 
> say I 
> didn't warn you.  You get what you pay for.  Next time, I'm 
> looking at 
> a Mitsubishi.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:36:59 -0700
> From: jpavlick at idseng.com
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Another vote for the Caravan. I can honestly say that I love 
> mine too. 
> The mileage figures everyone is claiming are right on. On 
> my trip to 
> the NATs this year I saw 24 - 26 with the A/C on (and I wasn't 
> exactly 
> driving at the speed limit). Around town you get about 18. 
> PLENTY of 
> room. I have Stow-N-Go on mine so I can fold the seats right 
> into the 
> floor. When you do this you can get full 8' sheets of plywood 
> inside 
> the van with the hatch closed.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Add a hitch and you can tow an 18' big block Olds powered Jet 
> boat. Try 
> that with a Prius!
> 
> 
> As for the "soccer mom" image - just ride your Harley to work a 
> few 
> days a week to make up for it! LOL
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> John Pavlick
> 
> 
> 
> Snaproll4 at aol.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Jim,
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>       I have the Grand Caravan.  Two 2 meter planes are not a 
> problem 
> even with a tent, chair and extra tool boxes.  I never thought 
> that I 
> would drive a mini van, but it is actually a pretty nice vehicle 
> to 
> drive all the time.  However,  the kids I work with call it the 
> " loser 
> cruiser".  It's not real sexy,  but you get to haul stuff from 
> Home 
> Depot too.  Highway mileage is 26 with the A/C on.  It's a 
> better value 
> than the Town and Country(but not as nice).
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/11/2008 4:02:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> jim.woodward at baesystems.com writes:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
>  
> 
> 
> I commute about 75 miles a day, then do about 100 miles of 
> driving a 
> weekend for practice so I am on the road a lot.  I am thinking 
> to down 
> sizing one of my cars.  At this point, I’m thinking about 
> these three:
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Scion XB, 28, hwy mileage
> 
> Honda Fit, 34, hwy mileage
> 
> Chevy HHR, 30 , hwy mileage
> 
> $ these around $16,000
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Here is a nice website that allows you to do car by car 
> comparisons.  
> http://scionbuyersguide.theautochannel.com/compare_details.php?car1=21667&car2=22687&car3=22711&car4=
> 
> =0
> D
>  
> 
> 
> OR – is something like the Dodge Grand Caravan the way do go, 
> and 
> that is the biggest bang for the buck? 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Any ideas would be great. 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
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