[NSRCA-discussion] Judge Evaluation/Ranking

Ron Van Putte vanputte at cox.net
Thu Oct 25 11:39:14 AKDT 2007


George is correct.  The best judge in the world can be stuck with  
some poor judges and his performance will look bad.  That's why only  
the top eight "performances" are used in the ranking.

Ron Van Putte

On Oct 25, 2007, at 1:35 PM, george w. kennie wrote:

> Vicente,
> It means nothing,..........Quadruple zero, triple Oh, double ott,  
> nothing, NADA !  In every case it amounts to the calibre of your  
> fellow judges on the rest of the panel for that round. So if you  
> happen to get stuck with a couple of dodos who are awarding 9's and  
> you're issuing legitimate downgrades you can be sure that your name  
> will not be entered in the 1000 folder.
> G.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Hester
> To: Don Ramsey ; NSRCA Mailing List
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judge Evaluation/Ranking
>
> Just a joke =)
>
> However I'm still trying to understand how it works. I have an  
> idea, but it's all that "new math" LOL
>
> -Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Ramsey
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judge Evaluation/Ranking
>
> In the Judge Evaluation Program no judge wins the round.  He is  
> simply assigned a score that accesses his performance relative to  
> the other judges based on 2 metrics, how he scored the flight  
> relative to the average of the other judges and how he placed the  
> pilots in the rounds versus their actual placing.
>
> Don
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Zapata, Lisandro Arturo
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judge Evaluation/Ranking
>
> I see George Asteris and John Fuqua with 1000
>
> -A
>
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- 
> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hester
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:52 AM
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judge Evaluation/Ranking
>
> I don't see no 1000....so who won the round? =P
>
> -M
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Van Putte
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judge Evaluation/Ranking
>
> Just as in looking at a pilot's normalized score, the judge  
> evaluation program rates the judges relative to a 1000 "perfect"  
> score.  You need to look at whether a judge is low on placing, on  
> scoring or on both.  It is possible, but looking at individual  
> maneuver scores would be very difficult, since there's so much data  
> out there.
>
> Ron
>
> On Oct 25, 2007, at 7:27 AM, vicenterc at comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Ron,
>>
>> This is a lot of work.  Looks nice.  Thanks to the evaluation/ 
>> ranking committee.
>>
>> Now, I have a question.  How we can use this results to improve  
>> our judging?  For example, I noticed that I did well in one set  
>> but not so well in the other.  Just wondering if there is a way to  
>> know in which maneuvers I was having more problems.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> --
>> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>> The NSRCA judge evaluation/ranking committee (Tony Stillman, Matt  
>> Kebabjian and Ron Van Putte, with Don Ramsey acting as an advisor  
>> and doing most of the tabulation work), have posted the latest  
>> methodology and scores of the NSRCA Judge Evaluation program on
>> http://www.nsrca.org/competition/judging/judging.htm Scroll down  
>> to the bottom left of the page.
>>
>> Please understand that this is a work-in-progress and, since  
>> results from each competition are manually entered into the final  
>> listing, errors will occur. As errors are discovered, they will be  
>> fixed.
>>
>> Ron Van Putte
>>
>>
>> From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>> Date: October 24, 2007 10:05:51 PM CDT
>> To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Judge Evaluation/Ranking
>>
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