[NSRCA-discussion] Judge Evaluation/Ranking

Ron Van Putte vanputte at cox.net
Thu Oct 25 10:03:27 AKDT 2007


Speaking for everyone on the judge evaluation/ranking committee, we  
would love a technique to sift through all the contest results and  
move appropriate data to the master results list, without a manual  
transfer of data by the "stuckee", usually Don Ramsey.  The problem  
is complicated by the way judges are identified.  A judge's  
identification is consistent within a particular contest, usually his  
contestant number, but the numbers change for every contest.  The  
only common thing is the judge's name.

If you have a piece of software that would enable extraction of data  
from the contest results and insertion into the master judge list,  
please let us know and, better yet, volunteer to work with us and  
implement it yourself.

Ron Van Putte

On Oct 25, 2007, at 12:31 PM, J N Hiller wrote:

> Ron, that is a lot of work. You guys did some serious head  
> scratching to generate usable data for evaluation.  What is not  
> readily apparent is the ongoing effort required to continuously add  
> data and update the information.
>
> The last few years I worked I was heavily involved in information  
> gathering and processing building management tools. XL is a  
> powerful and easy to use tool that was often too small for the data  
> extracted from the ERP system. The answer to any question always  
> brings another and it became easier to import massive amounts of  
> raw data into a database tool where complex queries could be used  
> to extract information having multiple relationships. XL pivot  
> tables were often employed by individual managers to slice and dice  
> general query data to mix and match specific relationships to  
> accommodate most of the ‘what If’ questions’. I had Microsoft  
> Access on my PC and found it semi-user friendly and with the help  
> of our in-house programmer was ably to acquire basic user skills.  
> Most programmers would prefer other more powerful database tools  
> but Access had many built in tools for reports and user friendly  
> queries such as individual judge performance and the ability to  
> present supporting detail with no more than a mouse click. If the  
> scoring program for a given contest retains the data it can most  
> likely be imported into a database program to be consolidated and  
> queried. Redundant manual data entry is probably not necessary if  
> the program data files can be momentarily linked for data transfer.  
> I would be happy to help if I can but I am a rank amateur compared  
> to others.
>
> Jim Hiller
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> Ron,
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> This is a lot of work.  Looks nice.  Thanks to the evaluation/ 
> ranking committee.
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> Now, I have a question.  How we can use this results to improve our  
> judging?  For example, I noticed that I did well in one set but not  
> so well in the other.  Just wondering if there is a way to know in  
> which maneuvers I was having more problems.
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> Best regards,
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> --
> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
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> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
> The NSRCA judge evaluation/ranking committee (Tony Stillman, Matt  
> Kebabjian and Ron Van Putte, with Don Ramsey acting as an advisor  
> and doing most of the tabulation work), have posted the latest  
> methodology and scores of the NSRCA Judge Evaluation program on
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> http://www.nsrca.org/competition/judging/judging.htm Scroll down to  
> the bottom left of the page.
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> Please understand that this is a work-in-progress and, since  
> results from each competition are manually entered into the final  
> listing, errors will occur. As errors are discovered, they will be  
> fixed.
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> Ron Van Putte
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