[NSRCA-discussion] Rudder Dual Rate

Winston E Batchelor perkinsrx at centurytel.net
Mon Oct 8 19:43:28 AKDT 2007


I've been flying Int for 2 years and STRUGGLING with the 2 rolls(as anyone who's seen me fly knows). AT my last contest I realized I had been leaving my Rudder on high rates the entire flight. Amazingly enough on low rate I didn't over control the rudder input in the rolls( yes I have been determined to do them integrated rudder-elevator-aileron)

Now my point  - when I kept the rudder on low rates for the entire flight I also did better stall turns,  Go figure

Eddie
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  From: JShulman 
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  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:40 PM
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  The high rate rudder with high expo will work, until you get into snaps. Then you might switch into high rate aileron with high expo and low rate rudder and elevator set-up. Switching for a stall turn seems less stressful than for a snap. But that's looking ahead.

  I have flown both the Sportsman and Intermediate with low rates on all surfaces. The "trick" to the stall turn on low rate is to NOT wait until the last minute to start adding rudder. I like to tell everyone it's like adding rudder like you would follow an expo curve. Little, little more, little more and then full (only when the plane will not fly over the top). It takes a bit of getting used to, but it works, all the way through to FAI also. I do have a high rate/high expo rudder set-up for rolling circles/loops (along with low rate aileron for 1 and 2 rollers) and those "O S" stall turns. I prefer the low rates on rudder and elevator cause now I don't have to flip switches for snaps.

  But ultimately it comes down to what YOU feel comfortable doing. After some practice, the rudder switch should become a motion rather than a thought.

  Regards,
  Jason
  www.jasonshulman.com
  www.shulmanaviation.com
  www.composite-arf.com 

    -----Original Message-----
    From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bob Wilson
    Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:56 PM
    To: NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
    Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Rudder Dual Rate


    I'm working on the Intermediate pattern and have got a question on dual rates.
    Except for the stall turns I like to keep the rudder on a lower rate...this keeps me from over-controlling direction changes.
    On the two stall turn maneuvers, however,  I flip it to high rate, but then back again as soon as the maneuver is over.
    Just curious if anyone else does this, and, in fact, does anyone alternate between low and high rates while flying their respective sequences?  Or, am I generating a bad habit?


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