[NSRCA-discussion] wing tube sleeve hole

Karl G. Mueller kgamueller at rogers.com
Sat Nov 10 12:05:13 AKST 2007


Nat,

Do the pictures make it more clear of what I was talking about ?
I am not judging at the Worldchamps this time, because I have been
to the last 5.  Each time the group of 20 judges has to be made up of
1/3 from judges that have not judged the immediate prior Worldchamps.
It's my turn to sit this one out.

Karl G. Mueller
kgamueller at rogers.com


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nat Penton
  To: NSRCA Mailing List
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 1:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] wing tube sleeve hole


  Thanks Karl. The pictures are nice.

  Are you in SantaFe ?              Nat
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Karl G. Mueller
    To: NSRCA Mailing List
    Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 10:38 AM
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] wing tube sleeve hole


    Nat,

    First you have to cut a slot thru the foam core at the end of were the
tube
    will be. This will serve also as the pocket for the ply tube support.
The slot
    size is 3/4" x 2 1/2". All pockets required are cut before the actual
wing core
    itself is cut. I trim up all my foam blocks to the same size before
starting to
    cut the actual core itself. Make yourself a new cutting-bow out of a
piece of
    1" x 2" wood and drill holes for the legs (5/32 dia. music wire or 2 old
main lg's.)
    Insert these thru the outward pointing holes right up to the coil. Cut
to length
    about 5" below coil. You can solder your wire for the current right to
the
    coil.
    Now here is the part that takes a little more work.
    File or grind small hook shapes at the end of the legs. Make up a
cutting wire
    that is when finished about 2" shorter than the distance between the two
legs.
    Bend small loops in the cutting wire on both ends. These will hook onto
the
    small hooks on the legs.
    First burn the starter hole with heated 5/32 wire and than insert the
cutting wire
    thru this and hook onto the legs of the bow. The coils in the music wire
(gear legs)
    will give you the tension required since the cutting wire is about 2"
shorter
    then the uncompressed ends of the legs.
    I have been trying to get some pic's attached, but they are too big in
size
    to get to the list so I will try to send those direct to you.
    Hope this helps.

    Karl G. Mueller
    kgamueller at rogers.com


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Nat Penton
      To: NSRCA Mailing List
      Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:21 PM
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] wing tube sleeve hole


      Karl
      At the outboard template position I am having difficulty understanding
how there is room for the cutting bow to work. What am I not seeing.
Thanks      Nat
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Karl G. Mueller
        To: NSRCA Mailing List
        Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:03 AM
        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] wing tube sleeve hole


        Lance,

        I have cut the holes for  the wing tube socket with a hot wire
        and two templates mounted to the work bench at the proper
        height to be on center of where the tube hole should be.
        The socket hole is cut before cutting the core itself.
        You need to make a slot in the core where the end support of the
        tube is going to be to insert the template that is mounted to the
bench.
        I then burn a small hole thru the center of the templates in the
        core with a hot piece of music wire held in a small machine vice
        that is guided along a straight edge. Then I thread the wire for the
        cutting bow thru that hole and start cutting following the two
        templates. Start with a low heat and try the fit. If the fit is too
tight
        just increase the voltage a little and go around the templates again
        until you achieve the proper fit. Of course you need a variable
power
        supply. Sounds more complicated than it really is. Now when you
        cut the core, adjust your tip template to get the proper dihedral.
Works
        for me.

        Karl G. Mueller
        kgamueller at rogers.com

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Lance Van Nostrand
          To: NSRCA Mailing List
          Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:46 PM
          Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] wing tube sleeve hole


          That's a hard one, Mike.  Both Terry and I use a similar method.
We had a machine shop make a jig for the cutter.  The cutter is a length of
7/8" wing tube with  a ground sharp edge, but the jig to hold it has got to
be made presicely.  I used to use a seemingly accurate jig made to the plans
provided in a KFactor several years ago, but my results were not good
enough.
          --Lance

            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Mike Miller
            To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
            Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:08 PM
            Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] wing tube sleeve hole



            http://www.mackrc.net/patternwings2/index.htm

            http://www.nextcraft.com/foamwingsandparts.html

            Terry Brox's web site on balsa skinned wings is very good and
does show the drilling of the servo lead hole with a tube and by hand.

            Their is some great information on these sites on building foam
core wings. But a very important part of a plug in wing would be the wing
tube sleeve hole in the core, to be straight and parallel to the desired
line centered and at the right angle to set the dihedral. Is there a site
that explains or shows the process of set up and drilling of this hole? If
this step is not perfect looks to me like the wing is dead no matter how
good the skinning process is.
            Thanks in advance

            Mike


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