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<DIV><FONT size=2>Nat,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Do the pictures make it more clear of what I was talking
about ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I am not judging at the Worldchamps this time, because I have
been</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>to the last 5. Each time the group of 20 judges has to
be made up of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>1/3 from judges that have not judged the immediate prior
Worldchamps.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>It's my turn to sit this one out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Karl G. Mueller<BR><A
href="mailto:kgamueller@rogers.com">kgamueller@rogers.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 10, 2007 1:38
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] wing tube
sleeve hole</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks Karl. The pictures are
nice. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Are you in SantaFe
?
Nat</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 10, 2007 10:38
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] wing
tube sleeve hole</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Nat,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>First you have to cut a slot thru the foam core at the end
of were the tube</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>will be. This will serve also as the pocket for
the ply tube support. The slot </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>size is 3/4" x 2 1/2". All pockets required are cut before
the actual wing core</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>itself is cut. I trim up all my foam blocks to the same
size before starting to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>cut the actual core itself. Make yourself a new
cutting-bow out of a piece of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>1" x 2" </FONT><FONT size=2>wood and drill holes for the
legs (5/32 dia. music wire or 2 old main lg's.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Insert these thru the outward pointing holes right up to
the coil. Cut to length</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>about 5" below coil. You can solder your wire for the
current right to the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>coil.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Now here is the part that takes a little more work.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>File or grind small hook shapes at the end of the legs.
Make up a cutting wire</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>that is when finished about 2" shorter than the distance
between the two legs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Bend small loops in the cutting wire on both ends. These
will hook onto the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>small hooks on the legs. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>First burn the starter hole with heated 5/32 wire and than
insert the cutting wire</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>thru this and hook onto the legs of the bow. The coils in
the music wire (gear legs)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>will give you the tension required since the cutting wire
is about 2" shorter</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>then the uncompressed ends of the legs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I have been trying to get some pic's attached, but they
are too big in size</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>to get to the list so I will try to send those direct to
you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Hope this helps.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Karl G. Mueller<BR><A
href="mailto:kgamueller@rogers.com">kgamueller@rogers.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 09, 2007 7:21
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] wing
tube sleeve hole</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Karl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At the outboard template position I am having
difficulty understanding how there is room for the cutting bow to work.
What am I not seeing.
Thanks Nat</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 09, 2007
10:03 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
wing tube sleeve hole</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Lance, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I have cut the holes for the wing tube socket
with a hot wire</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>and two templates mounted to the work bench at the
proper</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>height to be on center of where the tube hole should
be.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The socket hole is cut before cutting the core
itself.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>You need to make a slot in the core where the end
support of the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>tube </FONT><FONT size=2>is going to be to insert the
template that is mounted to the bench.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I then burn a small hole thru the center of the
templates in the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>core with a hot piece of music wire held in a small
machine vice</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>that is guided along a straight edge. Then I thread
the wire for the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>cutting bow thru that hole and start cutting following
the two</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>templates. Start with a low heat and try the fit. If
the fit is too tight</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>just increase the voltage a little and go around the
templates again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>until you achieve the proper fit. Of course you need a
variable power</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>supply. Sounds more complicated than
it </FONT><FONT size=2>really is. Now when you </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>cut the core, adjust your tip template to get
</FONT><FONT size=2>the proper dihedral. Works</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>for me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Karl G. Mueller<BR><A
href="mailto:kgamueller@rogers.com">kgamueller@rogers.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 08, 2007
10:46 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
wing tube sleeve hole</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That's a hard one, Mike. Both Terry
and I use a similar method. We had a machine shop make a jig for
the cutter. The cutter is a length of 7/8" wing tube with
a ground sharp edge, but the jig to hold it has got to be made
presicely. I used to use a seemingly accurate jig made to the
plans provided in a KFactor several years ago, but my results were not
good enough. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 08,
2007 7:08 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion]
wing tube sleeve hole</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.mackrc.net/patternwings2/index.htm"
target=_blank><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">http://www.mackrc.net/patternwings2/index.htm</FONT></A><BR><BR><A
href="http://www.nextcraft.com/foamwingsandparts.html"
target=_blank><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">http://www.nextcraft.com/foamwingsandparts.html</FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Terry Brox's web site
on balsa skinned wings is very good and does show the drilling
of the servo lead hole with a tube and by hand. <BR><BR>Their
is some great information on these sites on building foam core
wings. But a very important part of a plug in
wing would be the wing tube sleeve hole in the core, to be
straight and parallel to the desired line centered and at the right
angle to set the dihedral. Is there a site that explains or shows
the process of set up and drilling of this hole? If this step
is not perfect looks to me like the wing is dead no matter how good
the skinning process is.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks in
advance</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR>Mike</FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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