[NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits

[R. LIPRIE]

That surely doesn't happen that often because I've never seen it happen to one. Now maybe, some of the electric pilots have had it happen to them, but not often.

--Matt Liprie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ron Van Putte 
  To: NSRCA Mailing List 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 8:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits


  The electric airplane is already weighed with its "fuel"; you couldn't add another 20 oz of water and claim it was a fair  comparison with the glow airplane, which is weighed with no fuel.  Second, apparently a deadstick is only supposed to happen to a glow airplane.  What about a "low voltage cutoff" of the ESC?  When it happens, it sure looks like a deadstick to me.


  Ron Van Putte


  On Jun 24, 2007, at 8:24 PM, R. LIPRIE wrote:


    Wonder how this conflict would be if I said this.    If you put a 20oz tank of water in an electric airplane and had it leak out during the whole flight, as if it were burning fuel.  And the Esc go out about every 15 to 20 flights to resemble a deadstick landing.  It would make it equal between electric and glow.

    --Matt

    ______________________
    Taking off is optional, but landing is mandatory.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Dr. Mike Harrison 
      To: NSRCA Mailing List 
      Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 8:06 PM
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits


      Its not about money,  many kits can make the weight limit with careful building.  I have seen them and they cost no more than any other pattern plane.  I don't think the weight limit should be changed because of electrics.,


      Mike
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Ron Van Putte 
        To: NSRCA Mailing List 
        Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:38 PM
        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits


        I was also not aware that glow-powered airplanes needed the handicap they already have.  I agree that, with innovative design and $$$, electric-powered airplanes can compete with glow-powered airplanes.  The ones who suffer from the weight inequity are those who can't afford the $$$ to overcome the weight inequity. 


        Ron Van Putte


        On Jun 21, 2007, at 6:59 PM, John Ferrell wrote:


          I did not realize that the Electrics were in need of a handicap. They seem to be doing just fine against the recips under current rules. 

          If you really think they need a little help by all means give them a rule book boost!

          John Ferrell    W8CCW
          "Life is easier if you learn to plow 
                 around the stumps"
          http://DixieNC.US

            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Ron Van Putte 
            To: NSRCA Mailing List 
            Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:44 PM
            Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits


            I just got this response from John Fuqua.


            Ron Van Putte


            The guys are missing the point.  It is not about what can be achieved on weight.  It is what is permitted by the rules.  They are not arguing the logic of what the rules allow (in most cases) but examples of what has been achieved.   Please make that point. 


            John





            From: Ron Van Putte [mailto:vanputte at cox.net] 
            Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:18 PM
            To: Fuqua John D Mr CTR USAF 697 ARSF/EN
            Subject: Fwd: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Electric Weight Proposal Logic and Rationale




          _______________________________________________
          NSRCA-discussion mailing list
          NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
          http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion





------------------------------------------------------------------------



        _______________________________________________
        NSRCA-discussion mailing list
        NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
        http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion



--------------------------------------------------------------------------



      _______________________________________________
      NSRCA-discussion mailing list
      NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
      http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------



      No virus found in this incoming message.
      Checked by AVG Free Edition. 
      Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM

    _______________________________________________
    NSRCA-discussion mailing list
    NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
    http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion




------------------------------------------------------------------------------


  _______________________________________________
  NSRCA-discussion mailing list
  NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
  http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion


------------------------------------------------------------------------------


  No virus found in this incoming message.
  Checked by AVG Free Edition. 
  Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.nsrca.org/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/attachments/20070625/b83ac40f/attachment.html