[NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits

[Ron Van Putte]

It is said that you can't understand a person's problems until you've  
walked a mile in their shoes.  John and I didn't understand what the  
problems were regarding making weight with electric-powered airplanes  
until he decided to compete with one.  I am still competing with a  
glow-powered Focus.

John's airplane is under 5 Kg, but not by much.  Due to an extensive  
weight-saving building job on his Black Magic by Mike Hester and  
John's careful selection and installation of radio, batteries, ESC,  
prop, motor, spinner, et al, his airplane is OK with weight, even in  
the kind of winds we often see at the Nats.  He's thinking about the  
guys who can't afford as much $$$ as he has invested in his setup.   
The average guy probably can't build an electric-powered 2 meter  
airplane that makes weight and is competitive with the kind of budget  
required for a glow-powered version of the same airplane.

Ron Van Putte

The learning curve is very steep.
On Jun 21, 2007, at 11:54 PM, Keith Black wrote:

> I fly electric but still would be against this proposal.
>
> John F. makes some good points in his justification, however, I  
> simply think that Dave's counter points out "weigh" John's points.
>
> I think if you read Dave's post with an open mind and not a pre- 
> conceived "position" you feel you have to protect you'll find his  
> logic very compelling.
>
> BTW, I find this change of heart by you and John quite amusing.  
> This is probably unfair but it almost sounds as if one of you can't  
> get your new e-plane to make weight with the current rules. I'm  
> sure that's not true, but from the outside it certainly appears  
> that way.
>
> I hope the real reason for "floating" this idea was to get people  
> opinions. If so I'm beginning to see a trend.
>
> Keith Black
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Van Putte
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits
>
> I was also not aware that glow-powered airplanes needed the  
> handicap they already have.  I agree that, with innovative design  
> and $$$, electric-powered airplanes can compete with glow-powered  
> airplanes.  The ones who suffer from the weight inequity are those  
> who can't afford the $$$ to overcome the weight inequity.
>
> Ron Van Putte
>
> On Jun 21, 2007, at 6:59 PM, John Ferrell wrote:
>
>> I did not realize that the Electrics were in need of a handicap.  
>> They seem to be doing just fine against the recips under current  
>> rules.
>>
>> If you really think they need a little help by all means give them  
>> a rule book boost!
>>
>> John Ferrell    W8CCW
>> "Life is easier if you learn to plow
>>        around the stumps"
>> http://DixieNC.US
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ron Van Putte
>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:44 PM
>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits
>>
>> I just got this response from John Fuqua.
>>
>> Ron Van Putte
>>
>> The guys are missing the point.  It is not about what can be  
>> achieved on weight.  It is what is permitted by the rules.  They  
>> are not arguing the logic of what the rules allow (in most cases)  
>> but examples of what has been achieved.   Please make that point.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Ron Van Putte [mailto:vanputte at cox.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:18 PM
>> To: Fuqua John D Mr CTR USAF 697 ARSF/EN
>> Subject: Fwd: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Electric Weight Proposal  
>> Logic and Rationale
>>
>>
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