[NSRCA-discussion] Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010

Derek Koopowitz derekkoopowitz at gmail.com
Thu Jul 26 07:24:17 AKDT 2007


I had a long conversation with Steve Kaluf at the Nats about this.  Steve is
still dead set against it - his reasoning being that the 2 year cycle, the
emergency proposal process, and the ability to update the rule book online
(fix it as we go along) are much easier now than they were several years
ago.  He said that if a proposal did come in to move the schedules and
maneuver descriptions out of the rule book then he'd go to the EC with it
and that he'd doubt it would fly with them.  The AMA wants the official rule
book to be the source of all rules - the IMAC SIG used the argument that
they need to change their schedules every year because they emulate
full-scale sequences.  Has anyone looked over their sequences to see how
closely they follow full-scale?  :)

If we do put in a proposal to remove the schedules and it does go before the
EC then I think the NSRCA should have representation at that meeting to
plead our case.


On 7/26/07, Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Some may remember that, several years ago, I proposed that NSRCA be
> allowed to take the maneuver schedules out of the rule book and change them
> when we wanted to, just like IMAC can.  The proposal was shot down by the
> AMA Executive Council.  It was never accepted to be voted on by the contest
> board.  I never got a satisfactory response on why they took that action.  I
> have my suspicions that IMAC pulled a fast one on AMA in getting their
> ability to change schedules when they wanted and didn't want NSRCA to have
> the same privilege.  It would be interesting to see if the EC has changed
> its mind.
>
> Ron Van Putte
>
>  On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:45 AM, Mark Atwood wrote:
>
> Hear hear.
>
> I'm not generally a proponent of changing the lower classes all the time
> (the intent is that they not be destination classes...I also know the
> reality of that so please, no hate mail) But I'm a HUGE HUGE HUGE fan of
> being ABLE to change them every year...i.e. Removing the patterns from the
> AMA rulebook and allowing the Sig to post the schedules that will be in
> effect in a given year.
>
> I think you'll find ALL of the contest board members would vote "Yea" for
> that if they ever got the chance to...
>
> The advantages are so many I can't even begin to list them.
>
> -M
>
>
> On 7/26/07 8:37 AM, "John Ferrell" <johnferrell at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Are you certain that you really can change the schedule without waiting
> out the rules cycle?
>
> The lower classes had to endure 6 years of the same schedule because the
> Contest Board refused to act on anything other than emergency proposals in
> the interim. Many of the Advanced flyers elected just to stand down.
>
> You have just pointed to advantage the IMAC discipline has over Pattern
> with AMA...
>
> I hope you can pull it off because the existing conditions are detrimental
> to the game.
>
> John Ferrell    W8CCW
> "Life is easier if you learn to plow
>        around the stumps"
> http://DixieNC.US <http://dixienc.us/>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:*  Derek  Koopowitz <mailto:derekkoopowitz at gmail.com><derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>
>
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:26  PM
>
> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed  Masters Sequence for 2009/2010
>
>
>
>
> Over the past couple of months we (the NSRCA board)  have received a
> number of comments about the Masters sequence that was  selected in 2005.
>  We heard that the sequence had too many snaps,  turnaround maneuvers did
> not allow positioning of the plane (in or out) after  the 5th maneuver, and
> that the difficulty level from Advanced to Masters was  further increased.
>  There was also an error in the schedule in that one  would come out of the
> Double Immelman (#10) inverted and head into the Humpty  Bump
> (pull-push-pull) and head into the ground based on the description.   The
> Masters schedule was published in the July 2005 issue of the K-Factor
>  (Option A on page 25) - in
> lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion
>
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