[NSRCA-discussion] Smaller Models

[Richard Strickland]

I took my old Challenge IV--OS61RE--12/12N--Hatori--retracts--25% or so--for
a spin the other day.  Kinda forgot just how FAST it was...zoom.

RS
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Jay Marshall
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  I like the idea of .60 2C / .90 4C. I also think that there should be a
minimum weight to keep the hi-tech, high cost, composites at a minimum.  I
believe that we would see more manufacturers producing aircraft in this
range if there was a potentially larger - sport flyers -  market than just
pattern flyers. The current cost of a maxed out pattern setup of $5000+ is
ridiculous. Even the lowest cost setup is greater than $1K.



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  The field is level now at 2 meter span/length & 11 lb limit.



  It could also be level at 1.7 meters similiar as it was years ago using

  a .60 displacement limit.



  Personally, I found the commaraderie, sportsmanship, competition,

  and such that make pattern a joy for me, were same then as now.  But

  required less money, time, shop & vehicle space. Less investiment might

  assist in attracting new folks and maybe in keeping already active pilots.

  Then there is the huge issue of transitioning from the present equipment.



  Ron Lockhart





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    From: "Keith Hoard" <khoard at gmail.com>
    I know everyone says "Larger models fly better". . . Well, if smaller
models are hard to fly, then wouldn't that naturally level the playing field
a little?

    On 1/3/07, Ron Lockhart <ronlock at comcast.net> wrote:

    Yea, smaller has a number of advantages.

     A reduction in money, time, hassle factor, etc., of models is a thought
toward increased participation.

    (Yea, I know the established pilots, and new pilots, are allowed to fly
smaller models right now.  But we have a

    lot of history  that shows Dean's comment "Given that everyone will
build or buy up to the maximum size limit" is true.

    How does that Dixie thing go?....<G>



    Ron Lockhart



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      From: Dean Pappas

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      Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 4:51 PM

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      Hi John,

      A year or so ago, I puit together an Excelleron 90 for a review and
eventual sale to a newbie.

      Boy! Was it nice to drop a plane into the minivan in one piece!

      It was almost as good as when a Phoenix 8 would fit into the back of a
hatchback Camaro in one piece.



      Given that everyone will build or buy up to the maximum size limit,

      is there a good enough reason to push on the rules bodies to legislate
Pattern plane sizes back down?

      How about 1.6 or 1.7 meters square?

      Will this affect cost and complexity enough to have a beneficial
effect on participation?

      Or am I just whistling Dixie?



      later,

      Dean

      Dean Pappas
      Sr. Design Engineer
      Kodeos Communications
      111 Corporate Blvd.
      South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
      (908) 222-7817 phone
      (908) 222-2392 fax
      d.pappas at kodeos.com

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org ]On Behalf Of John Ferrell
        Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:07 PM
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        There seems to be a growing trend toward smaller airplanes among a
lot of folks. I sure am enjoying the 90 size Boxer I bought from Ed Miller
last summer. Less hassle to transport, assemble and fly. That means I can
fly more!



        John Ferrell    W8CCW
        "My Competition is not my enemy"
        http://DixieNC.US





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