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<DIV><SPAN class=531385915-04012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I took
my old Challenge IV--OS61RE--12/12N--Hatori--retracts--25% or so--for a spin the
other day. Kinda forgot just how FAST it was...zoom.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=531385915-04012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>RS</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jay
Marshall<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:18 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I like the idea of
.60 2C / .90 4C. I also think that there should be a minimum weight to keep
the hi-tech, high cost, composites at a minimum. <SPAN
DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun:yes"> </SPAN>I believe that we would see
more manufacturers producing aircraft in this range if there was a potentially
larger – sport flyers – <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>market
than just pattern flyers. The current cost of a maxed out pattern setup of
$5000+ is ridiculous. Even the lowest cost setup is greater than $1K.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN DEFANGED_STYLE="font-weight:bold">From:</SPAN></B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>ronlock@comcast.net<BR><B><SPAN
DEFANGED_STYLE="font-weight:bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, January 04, 2007
9:51 AM<BR><B><SPAN DEFANGED_STYLE="font-weight:bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA
Mailing List; NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN
DEFANGED_STYLE="font-weight:bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Smaller Models</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The field is level
now at 2 meter span/length & 11 lb
limit.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It could also be
level at 1.7 meters similiar as it was years ago
using<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">a .60 displacement
limit.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Personally, I
found the commaraderie, sportsmanship,
competition,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">and such that make
pattern a joy for me, were same then as now.
But<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">required less
money, time, shop & vehicle space. Less investiment
might<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">assist in
attracting new folks and maybe in keeping already active pilots.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Then there
is the huge issue of transitioning from the present
equipment.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Ron
Lockhart<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Keith Hoard"
<khoard@gmail.com> <BR>I know everyone says "Larger models fly
better". . . Well, if smaller models are hard to fly, then wouldn't that
naturally level the playing field a little?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><SPAN
class=gmailquote><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:12.0pt">On 1/3/07, <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Ron Lockhart</SPAN></B> <<A
href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net">ronlock@comcast.net</A>>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yea, smaller
has a number of advantages.
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> A reduction
in money, time, hassle factor, etc., of models is a thought toward
increased participation.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(Yea, I
know the established pilots, and new pilots, are allowed to fly
smaller models right now. But we have a
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">lot of
history that shows Dean's comment "Given that everyone will
build or buy up to the maximum size limit" is true.
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How does that Dixie
thing go?....<G></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ron
Lockhart</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original
Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=d.pappas@kodeos.com href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com" target=_blank
DEFANGED_Onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Dean
Pappas</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank
DEFANGED_Onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">NSRCA
Mailing List </A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Wednesday, January 03, 2007 4:51 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Header Brace<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
John,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A year or so ago,
I puit together an Excelleron 90 for a review and eventual sale to a
newbie.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Boy! Was it nice
to drop a plane into the minivan in one
piece!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It was almost as
good as when a Phoenix 8 would fit into the back of a hatchback Camaro in
one piece.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Given that
everyone will build or buy up to the maximum size
limit,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">is there a good
enough reason to push on the rules bodies to legislate Pattern plane sizes
back down?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How about 1.6 or
1.7 meters square?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Will this affect
cost and complexity enough to have a beneficial effect on
participation?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Or am I just
whistling Dixie?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">later,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dean</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Dean Pappas <BR>Sr. Design Engineer
<BR>Kodeos Communications <BR>111 Corporate Blvd. <BR>South Plainfield,
N.J. 07080 <BR>(908) 222-7817 phone <BR>(908) 222-2392 fax <BR><A
href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com" target=_blank
DEFANGED_Onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">d.pappas@kodeos.com</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN
DEFANGED_STYLE="font-weight:bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank
DEFANGED_Onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org </A>]<B><SPAN
DEFANGED_STYLE="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>John
Ferrell<BR><B><SPAN DEFANGED_STYLE="font-weight:bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:07 PM<BR><B><SPAN
DEFANGED_STYLE="font-weight:bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing
List<BR><B><SPAN DEFANGED_STYLE="font-weight:bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Header Brace</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There seems to
be a growing trend toward smaller airplanes among a lot of folks. I sure
am enjoying the 90 size Boxer I bought from Ed Miller last summer. Less
hassle to transport, assemble and fly. That means I can fly more!
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John
Ferrell W8CCW<BR>"My Competition is not my
enemy"<BR><A href="http://dixienc.us/" target=_blank
DEFANGED_Onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://DixieNC.US</A><BR> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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