[NSRCA-discussion] Expert Electronics' F650 Negative shift RX

[Dean Pappas]

Thanks for that info Jim,
I never put the 9Z on a scope in PPM. I guess that's because the only ship for which I've ever put the radio in PPM is the Shocky.
That doesn't explain the synth module reboot I have read about on several fora now. (I think that's the plural of forum???)
later,
Dean
 

Dean Pappas 
Sr. Design Engineer 
Kodeos Communications 
111 Corporate Blvd. 
South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
(908) 222-7817 phone 
(908) 222-2392 fax 
d.pappas at kodeos.com 

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of J.Oddino
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I don't know about the synth module compatibility.  That is probably a frequency shift direction issue.  I have a six meter 9Z and long ago I bought a DAD PPM receiver made by FMA and they had to do a major mod to it to make it work with the 9Z.  As I recall, if you look at the output of the discriminator you get the familiar series of control pulses going from zero to some voltage for about 300 microseconds with spacing of 1 to two milliseconds depending on stick position.  But then there is a long period, like seven milliseconds used to sync the decoder.  On most systems the voltage would be low, like the period between the pulses but with the 9Z transmitter the signal would be high like the peaks of the pulses.
My Berg, that came directly from Peter, worked and I don't recall telling him anything about the 9Z other than what channel it was on.  I assumed it figured out all the polarities and did what it needed to do.  I can't say why it wouldn't work with the synthesizer.
 
Jim O

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Jim:  Are you saying the 9Z with Synth module will work with the Berg DSP receivers?  When I asked Castle Creations, they said it would not.
 
Mike M

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I'm pretty sure it won't work.  The sync pulse is the wrong polarity with respect to the servo position pulses in the 9Z.  Just inverting it won't work.  I can't imagine why they did that.  Interestingly enough, the Berg receiver figured it out.
 
Jim O

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From: Dean  <mailto:d.pappas at kodeos.com> Pappas 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Expert Electronics' F650 Negative shift RX

Hello Incheol,
I assume that the F650 does not work with the synthesized 9Z TX module.
Try it with a non-synthesized module and it will almost certainly work.
This would not be the first RX to show this "feature".
I am told (though I have never tried this) that if you unplug then re-plug the 9Zsynthesizer module
while the TX is powered up that those same  RX es will work with the 9ZS module.
All the best,
Dean
 

Dean Pappas 
Sr. Design Engineer 
Kodeos Communications 
111 Corporate Blvd. 
South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
(908) 222-7817 phone 
(908) 222-2392 fax 
d.pappas at kodeos.com 

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Park, Ihncheol
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:48 PM
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Expert Electronics' F650 Negative shift RX


Has anyone tried Expert Electronics' F650 (Horizon part number EXRR6501) with Futaba or Hitec transmitter(s)?
This is JR Propo's R610 receiver in negative shift.  Very good and cheap receiver.
 
So far, it works good with Hitec Eclipse.  It does not work with Futaba 9Z on PPM.
Apparently Horizon did not know until today that this receiver does not work with 9Z.
If anyone tried them, would you please let me know?
Thank you,
 
Ihncheol Park
P & A Hobbies



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