[NSRCA-discussion] Pattern is for elitist snobs?

Sat Aug 25 12:33:22 AKDT 2007

Hi Ron.

I started the same way with no one to give me assistance locally. Yes it is a much harder battle to not have a coach or caller. I have often considered giving up because of the increased demands to participate in the sport. You should become a certified judge. You have to show up at a contest with your gear in excellent working order as not much time to attend to airplane problems at a contest when manning the judge or scribing chairs. Then to reciprocate calling duties for those that help you be your caller it does take it toll. 

Best I can suggest that attending contest early Friday to ask questions of those that were willing to help encouraged me to try and continue. Many on the list apparently lose site of the fact some of us don't have professional callers/mechanics and other local guru's to help with trimming issues, engine performance etc.  When I upgraded to 4 cycle I had no one around to point out to me that I was way down on power.  missing e clip wasn't allowing a valve to open. Took my attendance at a contest to find out I had a problem.  

I do understand the row you are hoeing. But it can be accomplished and you can have some fun while at it. Just will take more dedication and time on your part to do what others do in a lot less time.

Del 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ron at inweldcorp.com 
  To: 'NSRCA Mailing List' 
  Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 12:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pattern is for elitist snobs?

  I am new to pattern this year.  I got into it because I liked the smooth precision flying I saw at the District 4-5 Shootout.  I had never seen pattern before.  I went to my first contest in Quincy, Ohio a couple of weeks ago and I have to say I really didn't enjoy it.  It was the pressure.  I tried to tell myself I was just going out to practice at my home field but my mind knew better and made me nervous anyway.  I think as I become comfortable with the Sportsman routine I will enjoy trying to make it precise instead of just surviving it.  Maybe then, I will try another contest.

  I used several different callers at the contest.  I learned the most when I had a caller from a higher class.  My problem was when the caller said start working your way back in, I wanted to say, How do you do that.  But there is no time to learn while you are flying at a contest.  I know everyone is very busy at a contest either judging or flying.  However, If I could have had one caller from a higher class that would act as my mentor and review each flight with me, I could have learned a lot more.

  To keep me in pattern, I need a mentor at my home field and that just isn't available.  Trying to figure out what you are doing wrong on your own is a very slow way to learn.  I am sure I practice many mistakes over and over.  I have driven 1:45 away twice to get advice from Steve Maxwell.  He has been very helpful!  I just wish he was a little closer.

  Maybe if I get more comfortable with the Sportsman pattern, I will try another contest next year.

  Ron

  -----Original Message-----
  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ed Alt
  Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 9:53 AM
  To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pattern is for elitist snobs?

  Del, various efforts have been a huge success in D1, in terms of new membership each year, new and total number of contests each year and with one exception that you might like to pick on again, very good contest attendance.  We've even got all-IMAC guys running a new pattern contest in PA.  Go figure. You're entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

  Do you still have an airplane?  If not, someone will probably lend you one.  Heck, I will. I'll call maneuvers for you too. There's a pattern primer in Staten Island tomorrow.  There's another contest in New Hampshire 9/2.  There's another contest in Jackson, NJ two weeks after that. Come on out or give it a rest please.  I don't even know what you look like and I've been to almost every pattern contest in the district since I started flying pattern in 2004. If you're that unhappy with things, pick another hobby!

  Ed

  -----Original Message-----
  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Del K. Rykert
  Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 9:36 AM
  To: NSRCA Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pattern is for elitist snobs?

  I sure can't disagree with any of your post John. All of these things have been being done for years by some in our part of the country with varying degrees of success. I used to be able to attend 5 to 7 contest a year in my area. That has now been reduced for varying reasons to 2 possibly 3. Why?  The answers are varied in each case but the changes aren't to the good of promotion of the sport. 

  Also Unfortunately it doesn't address the casual flyer issue. Maybe the majority don't care that their mind set and past decisions have driven many from the sport. I appears that is the case, as repeated action has proven and no need to further address the causal flyers plight. 

      Del

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: John Pavlick 

    To: NSRCA Discussion 

    Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 12:29 AM

    Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Pattern is for elitist snobs?

    Since we're trying to figure out what we need to change so that more people will fly Pattern, I'd like to share some ideas with everyone.

    As far as I'm concerned, there is really nothing "wrong" with what we're doing. I don't think rule changes or easier schedules or anything like that will lure more people into flying Pattern. If you just admit that not everyone needs (or wants) to become a Pattern pilot, you'll be fine. The object is to find the people with good flying skills and a competitive spirit and expose them to Pattern. Here are some things that I've done that ACTUALLY WORK:

    1. Go to the club field with a sport plane or a warbird (leave your Pattern planes home!) and have fun flying with the clubbies. Chances are you'll make some new friends. You can try to get them hooked on pattern later...

    2. When you see someone struggling with a motor or having an obvious trim issue, offer to help. But not in the usual "Let me show you how it's done" manner. That creates resentment. Instead, say something like: "Wow, that's the same thing that happened to me! Wanna see how I fixed it?" Suddenly you're both on the same level. That's a better position to be in.

    3. Go to non-Pattern type club events. A Fun Fly or even a Scale Fly-In is actually a good way to relax and have fun. That's what we're supposed to be doing with toy airplanes anyway. Usually you'll meet people who ask how you learned to fly so well. Of course you know how to answer that...

    4. Become a club flight instructor. This is very rewarding and you can see who has the potential to fly Pattern before they get distracted by other interests.

    5. Help out with a club event. Don't even fly. If you have to cook burgers, then do it. In return, ask them to help YOU hold a Pattern Primer.

    OK, there are 5 things that almost anyone can do. I know, because I've done them all. Yeah it's kinda like "work" but it's not that bad. So far in the 3 years that I've been flying Pattern, I've gotten 3 more people to join us (all NSRCA members now). If I can do it, anyone can. The longest journey begins with the first step...

    John Pavlick
    http://www.idseng.com

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