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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Ron.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>I started the same way with no
one to give me assistance locally.</FONT> <FONT color=#0000ff>Yes it is a much
harder battle to not have a coach or caller. I have often considered giving up
because of the increased demands to participate in the sport. You should
become a certified judge. You have to show up at a contest with your gear in
excellent working order as not much time to attend to airplane problems at a
contest when manning the judge or scribing chairs. Then to reciprocate calling
duties for those that help you be your caller it does take it toll.
</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Best I can suggest that attending
contest early Friday to ask questions of those that were willing to help
encouraged me to try and continue. Many on the list apparently lose site of the
fact some of us don't have professional callers/mechanics and other local guru's
to help with trimming issues, engine performance etc. When I upgraded to 4
cycle I had no one around to point out to me that I was way down on power.
missing e clip wasn't allowing a valve to open. Took my attendance at a
contest to find out I had a problem. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I do understand the row you are
hoeing. But it can be accomplished and you can have some fun while at it. Just
will take more dedication and time on your part to do what others do in a lot
less time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT color=#800000><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Del</FONT> </FONT></EM></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ron@inweldcorp.com
href="mailto:ron@inweldcorp.com">ron@inweldcorp.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 25, 2007 12:56
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pattern
is for elitist snobs?</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am new to pattern
this year. I got into it because I liked the smooth precision flying I
saw at the District 4-5 Shootout. I had never seen pattern before.
I went to my first contest in </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Quincy</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">, </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ohio</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> a couple of weeks
ago and I have to say I really didn’t enjoy it. It was the
pressure. I tried to tell myself I was just going out to practice at my
home field but my mind knew better and made me nervous anyway. I think
as I become comfortable with the Sportsman routine I will enjoy trying to make
it precise instead of just surviving it. Maybe then, I will try another
contest.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I used several
different callers at the contest. I learned the most when I had a caller
from a higher class. My problem was when the caller said start working
your way back in, I wanted to say, How do you do that. But there is no
time to learn while you are flying at a contest. I know everyone is very
busy at a contest either judging or flying. However, If I could have had
one caller from a higher class that would act as my mentor and review each
flight with me, I could have learned a lot more.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To keep me in
pattern, I need a mentor at my home field and that just isn’t available.
Trying to figure out what you are doing wrong on your own is a very slow way
to learn. I am sure I practice many mistakes over and over. I have
driven </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1:45</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> away twice to get
advice from Steve Maxwell. He has been very helpful! I just wish
he was a little closer.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Maybe if I get more
comfortable with the Sportsman pattern, I will try another contest next
year.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Ron</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Ed Alt<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Saturday, August 25,
2007</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">9:53
AM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">'NSRCA Mailing
List'</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pattern
is for elitist snobs?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Del, various efforts
have been a huge success in D1, in terms of new membership each year, new and
total number of contests each year and with one exception that you might like
to pick on again, very good contest attendance. We’ve even got all-IMAC
guys running a new pattern contest in PA. Go figure. You’re entitled to
your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own
facts.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Do you still have an
airplane? If not, someone will probably lend you one. Heck, I
will. I’ll call maneuvers for you too. There’s a pattern primer in Staten
Island tomorrow. There’s another contest in New Hampshire 9/2.
There’s another contest in Jackson, NJ two weeks after that. Come on out or
give it a rest please. I don’t even know what you look like and I’ve
been to almost every pattern contest in the district since I started flying
pattern in 2004. If you’re that unhappy with things, pick another
hobby!</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ed</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Del K. Rykert<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, August 25, 2007 9:36
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing
List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Pattern is for elitist snobs?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I sure
can't disagree with any of your post John. All of these things have been being
done for years by some in our part of the country with varying degrees of
success. I used to be able to attend 5 to 7 contest a year in my area. That
has now been reduced for varying reasons to 2 possibly 3. Why? The
answers are varied in each case but the changes aren't to the good of
promotion of the sport. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Also Unfortunately
it doesn't address the casual flyer issue. Maybe the majority don't care that
their mind set and past decisions have driven many from the sport.
I appears that is the case, as repeated action has proven and no need to
further address the causal flyers plight.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <EM><I><FONT
face=Arial color=maroon><SPAN style="COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Del</SPAN></FONT></I></EM></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=jpavlick@idseng.com href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com">John Pavlick</A>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Discussion</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
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Saturday, August 25, 2007 12:29 AM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
[NSRCA-discussion] Pattern is for elitist snobs?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Since we're trying to figure out
what we need to change so that more people will fly Pattern, I'd like to
share some ideas with everyone.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As far as I'm concerned, there
is really nothing "wrong" with what we're doing. I don't think rule changes
or easier schedules or anything like that will lure more people into flying
Pattern. If you just admit that not everyone needs (or wants) to become a
Pattern pilot, you'll be fine. The object is to find the people with good
flying skills and a competitive spirit and expose them to Pattern. Here are
some things that I've done that ACTUALLY WORK:</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1. Go to the club field with a
sport plane or a warbird (leave your Pattern planes home!) and have fun
flying with the clubbies. Chances are you'll make some new friends. You can
try to get them hooked on pattern later...</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2. When you see someone
struggling with a motor or having an obvious trim issue, offer to help. But
not in the usual "Let me show you how it's done" manner. That creates
resentment. Instead, say something like: "Wow, that's the same thing that
happened to me! Wanna see how I fixed it?" Suddenly you're both on the
same level. That's a better position to be in.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">3. Go to non-Pattern type club
events. A Fun Fly or even a Scale Fly-In is actually a good way to
relax and have fun. That's what we're supposed to be doing with toy
airplanes anyway. Usually you'll meet people who ask how you learned to fly
so well. Of course you know how to answer that...</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">4. Become a club flight
instructor. This is very rewarding and you can see who has the potential to
fly Pattern before they get distracted by other
interests.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">5. Help out with a club event.
Don't even fly. If you have to cook burgers, then do it. In return, ask them
to help YOU hold a Pattern Primer.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">OK, there are 5 things that
almost anyone can do. I know, because I've done them all. Yeah it's
kinda like "work" but it's not that bad. So far in the 3 years that I've
been flying Pattern, I've gotten 3 more people to join us (all NSRCA members
now). If I can do it, anyone can. The longest journey begins with
the first step...</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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