[NSRCA-discussion] Sinking shipSyndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'

[JShulman]

I quit flying IMAC when they got rid of the box and center poles... Where is
the precision in a boxless flight area?

 Long low slow rolls, flying over the runway... www.ballisticpattern.com ,
with retracts and rear exhausts, www.seniorpattern.com , fixed gear and no
rear exhaust. In the box and most anything flies... www.nsrca.org

 Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of J N Hiller
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    Hmm, good idea, fly it where you can see it. Maybe it’s time to revisit
the 150-degree box proposal or eliminate it as IMAC has.

    Pattern has never been a spectator sport, too boring and repetitious.
All the airplanes look the same. The casual observer has no idea what we are
attempting to do. It helps to get out of our chairs and walk around and talk
to people. Make it easy for them to ask questions. Most will listen with
interest.

    Jim Hiller



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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Del K. Rykert
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    What got me hooked was watching a local practice in the olden days do a
slow roll 5 foot off the deck for 6 secs. Said to self...  Hmm  that looks
impressive, Wonder if I could learn to do that. This was done right over the
middle of the runway though. Those days are long gone. Sorry to say but the
way we fly today wouldn't have planted the hook for me. I flew full scale at
the time and didn't see any interest until seeing something I couldn't do
with my private ship. Had been flying R/C for at least 8 years at that time.



        Del

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    From: Matthew Frederick

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    Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 7:58 PM

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    If it wasn't for my dad, I never would have thought of flying pattern...
to him, it was the only option!

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    From: mike mueller

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    Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:32 AM

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     Pattern breeds pattern!!!! I like that. And parents of pattern flyers
breed new pattern flyers. How many in pattern today were introduced to RC
and pattern by a father? I was. Mike

    Mike Hester <kerlock at comcast.net> wrote:

    Been saying this forever, but sometimes it falls on deaf ears........
"pattern breeds pattern".



    if there are no pattern flyers at your club, then fly pattern. No, most
won't be interested at first, but give them time....ONE will decide to give
it a shot. may take a few months, may take a few years. But once you get 2,
it turns into 4...then 8....etc. The key is being there and flying it and
NEVER speaking badly about it. you have to "sell" the idea that it's fun,
challenging, and they can DO IT.



    Let's face it, in a club with 100 members, MAYBE 5 will ever be
interested in pursuing pattern. The time, money, discipline, etc that it
takes to actively compete is a level of participation and dedication that
most people do not have, and that's not a bad thing....toy planes. But we
have to make sure we reach those 5 and don't do anything stupid to burn them
before they get hooked.



    Jack is a monster. He is going to be TOUGH. He was flying a 60-90 sized
plane and whipping 2 meters on a national level. Your average guy is going
to see that and say "I could never do that". But 5% are going to say "I WANT
to do that". Find em.



    -Mike



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    From: Bob Wilson

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    Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:40 AM

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Syndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'



    Insights from a long time RC flyer who has just joined NSRCA.

    Most RC pilots don't understand pattern and don't want to look bad.
It's easy to flippity-flop all over the sky, but disciplined flying is
tough.   No one has ever required them to fly a straight line parallel to
the runway.  Anything other than a loop or roll is alien.   Humpty's,
Top-Hats, Figure M, Cobra
you might as well talk Swahili.  If NSRCA is going
to address falling membership they need to educate the RC community at the
ground level.   At the Peoria RC Modelers we are trying hard to promote
pattern.  Most exciting, however, is a young man from China (Jack Li) who
joined our club.   Jack is 16 and practiced pattern in China.  This year he
competed in "Intermediate" at Hoffman Estates and won first place.   His
subsequent visit to the NATS resulted in an Intermediate 2nd place.  Next
year he will be competing at the "Masters" level.  Our club is taking a new
look at Pattern and beginning to wake up.  A recent club "Mini Pattern"
event had 10 competitors.  Hopefully, we will build on this and get more
people into serious competition, but we really feel that education and
emphasis on the Sportsman sequence is the key to bringing in new blood.



    Bob Wilson

    VP

    Peoria RC Modelers







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