[NSRCA-discussion] Sinking shipSyndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'
Woodward, Jim
jim.woodward at baesystems.com
Wed Aug 22 07:19:23 AKDT 2007
Hi Del,
I look at it like this - nobody researches organizational leadership,
determines which are good or bad, then starts a sport or hobby because
the orchestrating organization is to their liking. If someone wanted to
bowl they would not intuitively look to the Professional Bowlers
Association, then go to the local alley and take a lesson. If a
newcomer to pattern has a negative opinion of the NSRCA then it is 99.9%
certain that a current or former NSRCA member put that thought in their
head. I also do not believe that people "quit" or drop out of pattern
because of the NSRCA. The NSRCA does not build your planes, tune your
motor, pack your ice-chest, or get your pattern-buddy motivated to go to
the next contest with you - that is all "people" stuff and we are the
people. However the NSRCA does facilitate a huge number of things that
unite our sport across the country - all of which are totally unknown to
newcomers probably and are not a big deal to them. Like the NSRCA or
not - who cares??? The real deal should be whether or not you enjoy
flying your pattern plane in competitions - and if so go and compete...
I happen to think that if you just think about growing pattern, then
NSRCA growth will follow to a large percentage. You (read as you, I,
and others) grow the sport by being around the other R/C guys in your
area and getting to know them one on one. Interest in our part of the
sport will be there or it won't. If it is, then try to cultivate it.
We can't drag people into this, but we can offer insight, help, and the
"rewards" of flying precision aerobatics. There is also a percentage of
current pilots that will cross-over from IMAC or Jets if they are
interested, but need a nudge in this direction. Its hard for current
R/C'ers to make the jump if they have never flown a pattern plane or at
least seen some pattern videos. Thank goodness for the D4 website which
is now posting some of the 2007 Nationals flight videos - THANK YOU D4!
I have enjoyed watching them.
If we want the sport to grow as well as the NSRCA then we need to get
out and shake some hands and loan airplanes or buddy cord up. I support
the NSRCA 100% but the NSRCA does not give me anything that I truly
enjoy from the hobby (accept for the Nationals and K-Factor) - this is
provided by the friends I've made and my own pursuit of a perfect
sequence.
Thanks,
Jim w.
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of twtaylor
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking
shipSyndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'
So we agree there's a problem. How do we fix it? Lets throw some idea's
out there.
Pattern primers are/have been successful in the past maybe we need more?
Personally my club will not allow me to have any type contest at our
field much less a Pattern contest. When I brought it up I was soundly
beat around the head and shoulders about the where we fly our patterns
and the club felt it would upset the neighbors. IMHO my club is a bunch
of Sunday fliers that don't want to put forth the effort. We do have
some new blood coming in that might change the way our club operates. It
will take a major change in club officers to do it. Only problem is we
have a self imposed 400' ceiling.
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Del K.
Rykert
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:56 AM
To: NSRCA Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship
Syndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'
I suspect is mostly because of lack of support or don't have the
resources/time or health to commit to office. What I haven't seen is a
change in the numbers no matter how positive the attitudes are of the
officers and leaders. A few years ago when I tried to bring up the
perception of a known problem in my mind I was told to be quiet as we
are making changes and things will improve. That was years ago.. How
many more years will it take? I still see a continuing decline with some
insisting it is only a local thing thinking as their area/district is
growing so therefore no problem. If I don't see a change to the positive
I have to assume the efforts on everyone's part hasn't truly addressed
the issues. I fully realize all about "assuming". So if the true goal is
to draw new blood and grow the ranks then the efforts have to be shifted
to focus the few resources the organization does have to focus more
efforts to draw the new blood. If the advertisers were truly onboard
they would be there year after year.. Not need further enticements to
return to placing an ad.
None of my comments are meant to infer all the efforts of all parties
hasn't been commendable in their efforts to address the problem. The
results are what I still feel need to be addressed. Survey the potential
wannabes. If no wannabe exist then we are left with what we have.
Del
----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Maxwell <mailto:patternrules at yahoo.com>
To: NSRCA Mailing List <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship Syndrome?
Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'
Have to agree with John and Mike on this, this adminstation has
only been in office a few months and nothing happens over night.
The other thing I always see is people with ideas but never see
there name on a ballet if people are really want to make a difference
and they have all the better ways why do we see unopposed ballets.
Steve Maxwell
mike mueller <mups1953 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Very well stated JLK. I have been in pattern for a very
longtime and I can tell you that the leaders we have right now are
taking us in a positive direction. I have a lot of faith in them. It
will take some patience but I think there are a lot of positive things
in place.
This forum is an open discussion of ideas and thoughts
some are agreeable some are not. Either way its it important that
everyone be heard. If there's a new concept that has merit then in time
the group will adopt it.
The biggest problem that I see with our sport is the
lack of younger people getting in. We need new blood ASAP. Mike
John Konneker <jlkonn at hotmail.com> wrote:
If I may.
As a lot of you know I am the ad manager for the
K-Factor.
It is my goal to bring enough advertisers on
board to make the K-Factor self
supporting.
I believe that goal is achievable.
I just prepared the invoicing for the July issue
and total billings, month
to month, are increasing.
We have a great bunch of advertisers already
that have been very supportive
of the NSRCA.
Please support them whenever you can.
I contact potential advertisers all the time.
If you have any you'd like to suggest please let
me know.
If you have personal contact with any and think
you can get them interested,
by all means talk to them.
Ron Davies is doing a great job as treasurer and
reports on the NSRCA
finances every month in his K-Factor column.
Through these reports you can see it's not just
members dues that generate
the operating income of the NSRCA.
As an aside I flew the Nats this year.
Derek invited me to the NSRCA board meeting held
on Tuesday night.
I had been out of RC since the late '80s and
only started pattern again last
year.
I can't tell you how impressed I was with the
officers.
Everyone, without exception, has the advancement
of pattern in their hearts.
Everyone, without exception, was positive in
their attitude.
There were no hidden agendas.
No "us" vs "them".
>From Derek on down we have a great bunch!
JLK
>From: "Del K. Rykert"
>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
>To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship
Syndrome? Please
>review'NSRCAMembers'
>Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:51:54 -0400
>
>I truly hear you message loud and clear John.
Do you have any further
>suggestions, as many don't want to look at some
of the changes that have
>been proposed? I know it has been discussed on
the list to degree of
>making some just deleting post without even
reading them. Either they don't
>care or don't want to hear it. Hate to be so
sinister to assume they want
>to see the NSRCA fail. I hope.
>
> Del
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Gayer
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:51 PM
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Please review
'NSRCAMembers'
>
>
> The attached Chart is based on numbers on the
NSRCA website and the
>treasurer's report in the latest K-Factor. If
the membership continues to
>reject any thoughts or proposals that might
help, I see this downward slide
> continuing. We are currently on the verge of
being unable to afford
>producing the K-Factor which is about the only
reason to stay on.
>
> I tried to post this several days ago with an
inline chart but the size
>was 4K oversize for the list parameters. It's
been awaiting approval of the
>moderator.
>
> John Gayer
> NSRCA 632
>
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