[NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship Syndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'

Wed Aug 22 07:15:03 AKDT 2007

So we agree there's a problem. How do we fix it? Lets throw some idea's out
there.

Pattern primers are/have been successful in the past maybe we need more?

Personally my club will not allow me to have any type contest at our field
much less a Pattern contest. When I brought it up I was soundly beat around
the head and shoulders about the where we fly our patterns and the club felt
it would upset the neighbors. IMHO my club is a bunch of Sunday fliers that
don't want to put forth the effort. We do have some new blood coming in that
might change the way our club operates. It will take a major change in club
officers to do it. Only problem is we have a self imposed 400' ceiling.    

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Del K. Rykert
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:56 AM
To: NSRCA Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship
Syndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'

I suspect is mostly because of lack of support or don't have the
resources/time or health to commit to office. What I haven't seen is a
change in the numbers no matter how positive the attitudes are of the
officers and leaders. A few years ago when I tried to bring up the
perception of a known problem in my mind I was told to be quiet as we are
making changes and things will improve.  That was years ago..  How many more
years will it take? I still see a continuing decline with some insisting it
is only a local thing thinking as their area/district is growing so
therefore no problem. If I don't see a change to the positive I have to
assume the efforts on everyone's part hasn't truly addressed the issues. I
fully realize all about "assuming". So if the true goal is to draw new blood
and grow the ranks then the efforts have to be shifted to focus the few
resources the organization does have to focus more efforts to draw the new
blood. If the advertisers were truly onboard they would be there year after
year..  Not need further enticements to return to placing an ad. 

None of my comments are meant to infer all the efforts of all parties hasn't
been commendable in their efforts to address the problem. The results are
what I still feel need to be addressed. Survey the potential wannabes. If no
wannabe exist then we are left with what we have.

    Del    

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Steven <mailto:patternrules at yahoo.com>  Maxwell 

To: NSRCA Mailing List <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:40 AM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship Syndrome?
Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'

 Have to agree with John and Mike on this, this adminstation has only been
in office a few months and nothing happens over night.

 The other thing I always see is people with ideas but never see there name
on a ballet if people are really want to make a difference and they have all
the better ways why do we see unopposed ballets.

 Steve Maxwell

mike mueller <mups1953 at yahoo.com> wrote:

 Very well stated JLK. I have been in pattern for a very longtime and I can
tell you that the leaders we have right now are taking us in a positive
direction. I have a lot of faith in them. It will take some patience but I
think there are a lot of positive things in place.

 This forum is an open discussion of ideas and thoughts some are agreeable
some are not. Either way its it important that everyone be heard. If there's
a new concept that has merit then in time the group will adopt it.

 The biggest problem that I see with our sport is the lack of younger people
getting in. We need new blood ASAP.        Mike

John Konneker <jlkonn at hotmail.com> wrote:

If I may.
As a lot of you know I am the ad manager for the K-Factor.
It is my goal to bring enough advertisers on board to make the K-Factor self

supporting.
I believe that goal is achievable.
I just prepared the invoicing for the July issue and total billings, month 
to month, are increasing.
We have a great bunch of advertisers already that have been very supportive 
of the NSRCA.
Please support them whenever you can.
I contact potential advertisers all the time.
If you have any you'd like to suggest please let me know.
If you have personal contact with any and think you can get them interested,

by all means talk to them.
Ron Davies is doing a great job as treasurer and reports on the NSRCA 
finances every month in his K-Factor column.
Through these reports you can see it's not just members dues that generate 
the operating income of the NSRCA.
As an aside I flew the Nats this year.
Derek invited me to the NSRCA board meeting held on Tuesday night.
I had been out of RC since the late '80s and only started pattern again last

year.
I can't tell you how impressed I was with the officers.
Everyone, without exception, has the advancement of pattern in their hearts.
Everyone, without exception, was positive in their attitude.
There were no hidden agendas.
No "us" vs "them".
>From Derek on down we have a great bunch!
JLK

>From: "Del K. Rykert" 
>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List 
>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" 
>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship Syndrome? Please 
>review'NSRCAMembers'
>Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:51:54 -0400
>
>I truly hear you message loud and clear John. Do you have any further 
>suggestions, as many don't want to look at some of the changes that have 
>been proposed? I know it has been discussed on the list to degree of 
>making some just deleting post without even reading them. Either they don't

>care or don't want to hear it. Hate to be so sinister to assume they want 
>to see the NSRCA fail. I hope.
>
> Del
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Gayer
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:51 PM
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Please review 'NSRCAMembers'
>
>
> The attached Chart is based on numbers on the NSRCA website and the 
>treasurer's report in the latest K-Factor. If the membership continues to 
>reject any thoughts or proposals that might help, I see this downward slide

> continuing. We are currently on the verge of being unable to afford 
>producing the K-Factor which is about the only reason to stay on.
>
> I tried to post this several days ago with an inline chart but the size 
>was 4K oversize for the list parameters. It's been awaiting approval of the

>moderator.
>
> John Gayer
> NSRCA 632
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