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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">Del</st1:State></st1:place>,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I look at it like this – nobody
researches organizational leadership, determines which are good or bad, then
starts a sport or hobby because the orchestrating organization is to their
liking. If someone wanted to bowl they would not intuitively look to the
Professional Bowlers Association, then go to the local alley and take a
lesson. If a newcomer to pattern has a negative opinion of the NSRCA then it
is 99.9% certain that a current or former NSRCA member put that thought in
their head. I also do not believe that people “quit” or drop out
of pattern because of the NSRCA. The NSRCA does not build your planes, tune
your motor, pack your ice-chest, or get your pattern-buddy motivated to go to
the next contest with you – that is all “people” stuff and we
are the people. However the NSRCA does facilitate a huge number of things that
unite our sport across the country – all of which are totally unknown to
newcomers probably and are not a big deal to them. Like the NSRCA or not –
who cares??? The real deal should be whether or not you enjoy flying your
pattern plane in competitions – and if so go and compete…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I happen to think that if you just think
about growing pattern, then NSRCA growth will follow to a large percentage.
You (read as you, I, and others) grow the sport by being around the other R/C
guys in your area and getting to know them one on one. Interest in our part of
the sport will be there or it won’t. If it is, then try to cultivate
it. We can’t drag people into this, but we can offer insight, help, and
the “rewards” of flying precision aerobatics. There is also a
percentage of current pilots that will cross-over from IMAC or Jets if they are
interested, but need a nudge in this direction. Its hard for current R/C’ers
to make the jump if they have never flown a pattern plane or at least seen some
pattern videos. Thank goodness for the D4 website which is now posting some of
the 2007 Nationals flight videos – THANK YOU D4! I have enjoyed watching
them. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If we want the sport to grow as well as
the NSRCA then we need to get out and shake some hands and loan airplanes or
buddy cord up. I support the NSRCA 100% but the NSRCA does not give me
anything that I truly enjoy from the hobby (accept for the Nationals and K-Factor)
– this is provided by the friends I’ve made and my own pursuit of a
perfect sequence. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> w.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>twtaylor<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 22, 2007
11:16 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Sinking shipSyndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So we agree there’s a problem. How
do we fix it? Lets throw some idea’s out there.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Pattern primers are/have been successful
in the past maybe we need more?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Personally my club will not allow me to
have any type contest at our field much less a Pattern contest. When I brought
it up I was soundly beat around the head and shoulders about the where we fly
our patterns and the club felt it would upset the neighbors. IMHO my club is a
bunch of Sunday fliers that don’t want to put forth the effort. We do
have some new blood coming in that might change the way our club operates. It
will take a major change in club officers to do it. Only problem is we have a
self imposed 400’ ceiling. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Del K. Rykert<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 22, 2007
10:56 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Sinking ship Syndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I suspect is mostly because of lack of
support or don't have the resources/time or health to commit to office.
What I haven't seen is a change in the numbers no matter how positive the
attitudes are of the officers and leaders. A few years ago when I tried to
bring up the perception of a known problem in my mind I was told to be quiet as
we are making changes and things will improve. That was years ago..
How many more years will it take? I still see a continuing decline with
some insisting it is only a local thing thinking as their area/district is growing
so therefore no problem.</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'>If I don't see a change to the positive I have to
assume the efforts on everyone's part hasn't truly addressed the issues. I
fully realize all about "</span></font><em><i><font color=maroon
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>assuming</span></font></i></em><font
color=blue><span style='color:blue'>". So if the true goal is to draw
new blood and grow the ranks then the efforts have to be shifted to focus the
few resources the organization does have to focus more efforts to draw the new
blood. If the advertisers were truly onboard they would be there year
after year.. Not need further enticements to return to placing an
ad. </span></font></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><u><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>None of my comments are meant to infer all the efforts of
all parties hasn't been commendable in their efforts to address the problem.
The results are what I still feel need to be addressed. Survey the
potential wannabes. If no wannabe exist then we are left with what we have.</span></font></u><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:maroon'> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">Del</st1:State></st1:place> </span></font></i></em><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:patternrules@yahoo.com" title="patternrules@yahoo.com">Steven
Maxwell</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday, August
22, 2007 8:40 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship Syndrome? Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Have to agree with John and Mike on this, this adminstation has
only been in office a few months and nothing happens over night.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> The other thing I always see is people with ideas but never see
there name on a ballet if people are really want to make a difference and they
have all the better ways why do we see unopposed ballets.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Steve Maxwell<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>mike mueller
<mups1953@yahoo.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Very well stated JLK. I have been in pattern for a very
longtime and I can tell you that the leaders we have right now are taking us
in a positive direction. I have a lot of faith in them. It will take some
patience but I think there are a lot of positive things in place.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> This forum is an open discussion of ideas and thoughts some are
agreeable some are not. Either way its it important that everyone be heard. If
there's a new concept that has merit then in time the group will adopt it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> The biggest problem that I see with our sport is the lack of
younger people getting in. We need new blood
ASAP. Mike<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>John Konneker
<jlkonn@hotmail.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>If I may.<br>
As a lot of you know I am the ad manager for the K-Factor.<br>
It is my goal to bring enough advertisers on board to make the K-Factor self <br>
supporting.<br>
I believe that goal is achievable.<br>
I just prepared the invoicing for the July issue and total billings, month <br>
to month, are increasing.<br>
We have a great bunch of advertisers already that have been very supportive <br>
of the NSRCA.<br>
Please support them whenever you can.<br>
I contact potential advertisers all the time.<br>
If you have any you'd like to suggest please let me know.<br>
If you have personal contact with any and think you can get them interested, <br>
by all means talk to them.<br>
Ron Davies is doing a great job as treasurer and reports on the NSRCA <br>
finances every month in his K-Factor column.<br>
Through these reports you can see it's not just members dues that generate <br>
the operating income of the NSRCA.<br>
As an aside I flew the Nats this year.<br>
Derek invited me to the NSRCA board meeting held on Tuesday night.<br>
I had been out of RC since the late '80s and only started pattern again last <br>
year.<br>
I can't tell you how impressed I was with the officers.<br>
Everyone, without exception, has the advancement of pattern in their hearts.<br>
Everyone, without exception, was positive in their attitude.<br>
There were no hidden agendas.<br>
No "us" vs "them".<br>
>From Derek on down we have a great bunch!<br>
JLK<br>
<br>
<br>
>From: "Del K. Rykert" <br>
<DRYKERT2@ROCHESTER.RR.COM>>Reply-To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName> <br>
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG>>To: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName>" <br>
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG>>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship
Syndrome? Please <br>
>review'NSRCAMembers'<br>
>Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:51:54 -0400<br>
><br>
>I truly hear you message loud and clear John. Do you have any further <br>
>suggestions, as many don't want to look at some of the changes that have <br>
>been proposed? I know it has been discussed on the list to degree of <br>
>making some just deleting post without even reading them. Either they don't
<br>
>care or don't want to hear it. Hate to be so sinister to assume they want <br>
>to see the NSRCA fail. <TIC>I hope.<br>
><br>
> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">Del</st1:State></st1:place><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: John Gayer<br>
> To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:51 PM<br>
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Please review 'NSRCAMembers'<br>
><br>
><br>
> The attached Chart is based on numbers on the NSRCA website and the <br>
>treasurer's report in the latest K-Factor. If the membership continues to <br>
>reject any thoughts or proposals that might help, I see this downward slide
<br>
> continuing. We are currently on the verge of being unable to afford <br>
>producing the K-Factor which is about the only reason to stay on.<br>
><br>
> I tried to post this several days ago with an inline chart but the size <br>
>was 4K oversize for the list parameters. It's been awaiting approval of the
<br>
>moderator.<br>
><br>
> John Gayer<br>
> NSRCA 632<br>
><br>
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href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48252/*http:/mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC">mobile
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