[NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility in class selection?

J N Hiller jnhiller at earthlink.net
Wed Aug 15 16:54:56 AKDT 2007


Good advice.
Jim Hiller

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of John Gayer
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility in class selection?

Claude,
Over the years, I have seen many, many more people move up prematurely and
struggle mightily. A lot more than I have ever seen of any sandbagging in
class for the sole purpose of winning. The only exception I have seen is the
legalized sandbagging occurring these days in Masters.
I would however recommend taking one more year in a given class and focusing
80% of your practice time on the next class.
John

Claude Weimer wrote:
To me flying pattern cannot be just about winning. Advancing in class is
flying more challenging sequences. It should be a personal thing about being
a better pilot. How well you do is a way to gage how you are doing. If you
start placing with ease then its time to think about moving up to continue
the challenge. If all a pilot focuses on is winning then he may not be a
very happy person.

Claude Weimer

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<mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>  [
mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Glen Watson
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility in class selection?

John Gayer quote “As a competant advanced pilot of somewhat advanced years,
I have very little interest in moving to Masters in order to spend the rest
of my pattern years trying to break 900 against the parkers.”

I fail to see the logic in this statement.  This same statement can be
applied to a Masters competitor when first entering FAI, especially at the
NATS.

Actually there is benefit to having quality competition within any class.
How else does one become better unless the bar is set high?

~Glen

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<mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>  [
mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John Gayer
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility in class selection?

how about changing the AMA advancemant rule and keep it very simple?
Your first contest of the year will determine your class for the year. You
may go up one class at any time during the year but may not go back down
during the year. At the start of the next year you may drop back one class
at your option, stay where you are or go up a class.
This is simple enough that your fellow competitiors will know if you are
following the rules. It will also be up to your fellow competitiors to
insure that you are not sandbagging.
I also feel strongly that sandbagging in Masters should not be allowed. If
you disregard Sportsman, then half of the classes allow parking. Obviously,
F3A has to be a parking lot but I see no reason to allow this behavior in
Masters. As a competant advanced pilot of somewhat advanced years, I have
very little interest in moving to Masters in order to spend the rest of my
pattern years trying to break 900 against the parkers.
I fail to see the logic in having two destination classes. Shouldn't we all
aspire to progress to FAI? The current Masters schedule is designed as a
stepping stone to Masters. Let's use it that way.

John Gayer
NSRCA 632


BUDDYonRC at aol.com <mailto:BUDDYonRC at aol.com>  wrote:
There was a proposal on the last rules cycle that would allow a person to
move up and test his ability then move back if he had not attained the
skills required for the higher class.  I personally think it is a good idea
and I also see no need for the point system like someone said if someone
abuses the privilege we can solicit Earl and four other guys his size to
take him behind the barn and splain to him why he will be moving up. I
believe peer pressure is all the control we need.
I think this is worth a try.
For those who have the ability and desire to achieve a spot at the top I
don't see that we have a problem.
Buddy

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