[NSRCA-discussion] Advancement: let's wrap it up

[Ron Van Putte]

AMA does not track advancement points.

Ron Van Putte

On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:34 PM, Matthew Frederick wrote:

> I was under the impression that contest results were forwarded to  
> the AMA by the CD, and that it was incumbent on the AMA and the  
> individual to track their own AMA points. Am I mistaken?
>
> Matt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Fred Huber
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement: let's wrap it up
>
> Actually... we need to include non-NSRCA Pattern flyers in the  
> recordskeeping if there is going to be a points system forcing  
> moving up.
>
> No recordkeeping...then the system is meaningless.
>
> Recordkeeping only for NSRCA members = members end up at a  
> disadvantage to the sandbaggers who aren't members.
>
> NSRCA is the Special Interest Group REPREASENTING Pattern to the  
> AMA... but membership is not required to comnpete in Pattern.
>
> You can petition the AMA to require membership to compete in  
> Pattern (lead balloon)
> or
> you can just deal with the paperwork involved in handling the point  
> system for non-paying Pattern flyers...
> or
> you can just drop the point system totally.
>
> Right now... there are 2 reasons for people to join NSRCA:  Support  
> the SIG.... or... attempt to get the District champ awards.
>
> The old 80%/20% rule applies... 20% of the active members do all  
> the work so that the other 80% can enjoy the hobby.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: twtaylor
> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 6:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement: let's wrap it up
>
> Lance one minor point that would kill the District Champion idea,  
> Not all pattern fliers are NSRCA members. We’d have to include non- 
> members in the point chase and that’s not fair.
>
>
>
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- 
> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Lance Van Nostrand
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:59 AM
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement: let's wrap it up
>
>
>
> http://www.modelaircraft.org/PDF-files/333.pdf
>
>
>
> Here's the rules proposal form.  If we can get one or three people  
> to fill it in and post it for review here maybe this discussion  
> will result in something.
>
>
>
> Here's a summary of what I think I've read (beware of severe  
> summarizing):
>
> Advancement rules based on hard numbers (like 100 points) are wrong  
> because some people go to more contests or some districts have more  
> pilots.  A system based on percentages would be better.  We've  
> heard a comparison to a national average (need an implementable  
> procedure to accurately compute this), force up of the district  
> champs, and accumulating the raw scores for the year into averages  
> that can be compared.
>
>
>
> We've also heard of simply tracking and publishing points and  
> letting heckling take care of the rest (really need a 3 or 4 year  
> window on this to allow one to level off before masters).  Note:  
> this was the way it was 4 years ago, but that was before every  
> district could post points on their website.  It didn't work then.
>
>
>
> Several recommendations to increase the points above 100, but this  
> is really just an adjustment for the size of the district so if  
> this can be modified into a way to calculate an advancement number  
> by district, maybe it could work.
>
>
>
> --Lance
>
>
>
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