[NSRCA-discussion] Landing Direction

[Keith Black]

Paul, it sounds like you speak from experience.

Keith B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Horan" <paul.horan at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landing Direction


> Lance,
>     This is not a problem since Sportsman fliers some times change landing
> direction and land vertically rather than horicontally.
> Paul
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lance Van Nostrand" <patterndude at tx.rr.com>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 6:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landing Direction
>
>
> >I haven't seen the problem in contests I've been to.  Generally the CD
will
> > declare takeoff direction is pilots option, if the winds are
> > light/variable
> > and the field and contest can tolerate it.  Otherwise a direction of
> > takeoff
> > is stated and followed.  This can happen on a calm day if the CD prefers
> > the
> > uniformity of it.  The only time the proposed scenario would occur is if
> > the
> > permission is there to fly either direction, which is not that often.
If
> > it
> > is in place, then someone could possibly change landing direction
> > unecessarily, but since most contests have a defined manuver direction
and
> > there is no requirement to let someone land downwind, any pilot planning
> > on
> > this game will find themselves burned over time.  On the other hand, if
> > this
> > helps a sportsman enjoy his day (and many sportsman are not traveling
> > competitors) then is this really a problem?
> >
> > --Lance
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jerry Stebbins" <JAStebbins at worldnet.att.net>
> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landing Direction
> >
> >
> >> Mark, interesting, and very astute observation. Now you do not need to
> >> guess
> >> why it was initiated!!! The reasons/rationale stated were only
developed
> >> to
> >> sell it. Same thing happened once before--"no scores for Takeoff and
> >> Landings".It now has gone full circle and the purported rationale has
> >> finally been overcome by common sense and "facts".
> >> Jerry
> >> Jerry
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Mark Atwood" <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
> >> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:47 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landing Direction
> >>
> >>
> >>>I think my only annoyance with all of this is number of times I have
> >>>watched
> >>> pilots purposely take off down wind in a "mild" wind because it
allowed
> >>> them
> >>> to fly their preferred direction only to cry "SAFETY" when the wind
> >>> picked
> >>> up and suddenly their choice of direction isn't so desirable.
> >>>
> >>> I don't think anyone questions a major wind shift during a flight
should
> >>> be
> >>> allowed some variance in making a landing.  But let's face it...those
> >>> times
> >>> are few and far between. The real issue is the quartering cross wind
> >>> that's
> >>> shifting slightly from upwind to downwind, where the pilot picks his
> >>> preference for take off and his pattern, rather than thinking about
the
> >>> landing.
> >>>
> >>> -M
> >>>
> >>> On 4/6/07 2:39 PM, "Del K. Rykert" <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> As a pilot I always feel the ultimate decision rests with the pilot.
I
> >>>> would ask permission to land the opposite way but if not given and
felt
> >>>> it
> >>>> was a safety issue to land downwind I would take the zero and land
the
> >>>> reverse direction. Smarter to be safe and go home with an intact
> >>>> airplane
> >>>> then to land and force a mishap. Having said that, it also forces
> >>>> greater
> >>>> responsibility on the pilot to make sure he isn't conflicting with
> >>>> opposing
> >>>> traffic if he so chooses to land into the wind and causes a mishap by
> >>>> reversing direction. So the decision is not to be taken lightly.
> >>>>
> >>>>     Del
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: <randy9004 at comcast.net>
> >>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:35 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landing Direction
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Does the pilot/caller get to decide if the wind has changed
> >>>>> directions?
> >>>>> Does a judge need to agree?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Randy
> >>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>> From: "Don Ramsey" <donramsey at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> To those who read my March Kfactor article, I seem to have mistated
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> intent
> >>>>>> of the new landing direction rule.  After re-reading the intent of
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> rule, it
> >>>>>> seems the rule was put in to allow a change of landing direction
only
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>> a wind
> >>>>>> change.  This is implied in the new rule.  The landing direction
> >>>>>> should
> >>>>>> always
> >>>>>> be in the direciton of takeoff unless the wind changes to a
direction
> >>>>>> that would
> >>>>>> cause a downwind landing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks to all who brought this to my attention.
> >>>>>> Don
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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