[NSRCA-discussion] Landing Direction

[Paul Horan]

Lance,
    This is not a problem since Sportsman fliers some times change landing 
direction and land vertically rather than horicontally.
Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lance Van Nostrand" <patterndude at tx.rr.com>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landing Direction


>I haven't seen the problem in contests I've been to.  Generally the CD will
> declare takeoff direction is pilots option, if the winds are 
> light/variable
> and the field and contest can tolerate it.  Otherwise a direction of 
> takeoff
> is stated and followed.  This can happen on a calm day if the CD prefers 
> the
> uniformity of it.  The only time the proposed scenario would occur is if 
> the
> permission is there to fly either direction, which is not that often.  If 
> it
> is in place, then someone could possibly change landing direction
> unecessarily, but since most contests have a defined manuver direction and
> there is no requirement to let someone land downwind, any pilot planning 
> on
> this game will find themselves burned over time.  On the other hand, if 
> this
> helps a sportsman enjoy his day (and many sportsman are not traveling
> competitors) then is this really a problem?
>
> --Lance
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerry Stebbins" <JAStebbins at worldnet.att.net>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landing Direction
>
>
>> Mark, interesting, and very astute observation. Now you do not need to
>> guess
>> why it was initiated!!! The reasons/rationale stated were only developed
>> to
>> sell it. Same thing happened once before--"no scores for Takeoff and
>> Landings".It now has gone full circle and the purported rationale has
>> finally been overcome by common sense and "facts".
>> Jerry
>> Jerry
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mark Atwood" <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landing Direction
>>
>>
>>>I think my only annoyance with all of this is number of times I have
>>>watched
>>> pilots purposely take off down wind in a "mild" wind because it allowed
>>> them
>>> to fly their preferred direction only to cry "SAFETY" when the wind
>>> picked
>>> up and suddenly their choice of direction isn't so desirable.
>>>
>>> I don't think anyone questions a major wind shift during a flight should
>>> be
>>> allowed some variance in making a landing.  But let's face it...those
>>> times
>>> are few and far between. The real issue is the quartering cross wind
>>> that's
>>> shifting slightly from upwind to downwind, where the pilot picks his
>>> preference for take off and his pattern, rather than thinking about the
>>> landing.
>>>
>>> -M
>>>
>>> On 4/6/07 2:39 PM, "Del K. Rykert" <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a pilot I always feel the ultimate decision rests with the pilot.  I
>>>> would ask permission to land the opposite way but if not given and felt
>>>> it
>>>> was a safety issue to land downwind I would take the zero and land the
>>>> reverse direction. Smarter to be safe and go home with an intact
>>>> airplane
>>>> then to land and force a mishap. Having said that, it also forces
>>>> greater
>>>> responsibility on the pilot to make sure he isn't conflicting with
>>>> opposing
>>>> traffic if he so chooses to land into the wind and causes a mishap by
>>>> reversing direction. So the decision is not to be taken lightly.
>>>>
>>>>     Del
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <randy9004 at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Landing Direction
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Does the pilot/caller get to decide if the wind has changed 
>>>>> directions?
>>>>> Does a judge need to agree?
>>>>>
>>>>> Randy
>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>>> From: "Don Ramsey" <donramsey at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To those who read my March Kfactor article, I seem to have mistated
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> intent
>>>>>> of the new landing direction rule.  After re-reading the intent of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> rule, it
>>>>>> seems the rule was put in to allow a change of landing direction only
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> a wind
>>>>>> change.  This is implied in the new rule.  The landing direction
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> always
>>>>>> be in the direciton of takeoff unless the wind changes to a direction
>>>>>> that would
>>>>>> cause a downwind landing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to all who brought this to my attention.
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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