[NSRCA-discussion] Anyone use a Brio 10 (little electric) to practice pattern?

[John Gayer]

I would suggest using the little electrics to become fully confident 
with the use of the intended rudder in all aircraft attitudes. At best, 
these planes fly differently enough to your pattern aircraft that bad 
habits can be built up if you try flying a pattern.
If you're completely confident in your rudder work, then use them to 
have a blast trying out stuff you've never done before. Usually these 
planes just bounce instead of explode when encountering terra firma.
John

mike mueller wrote:

>  I owned one in the Spring. I liked it at first bu the more I flew it 
> the less I liked it. It flew too heavy. Mine was 32 oz. AUW with TP 
> 2100's and a Hacker A30M. I had tons of power with that setup.
>  Last year I had a Fliton Prodidy 3D. It flew a little better but 
> suffered from having too short of a nose moment and it was hard to 
> balance. I've been eying the new Fliton Insite Mini. It looks like it 
> would do the trick. The Fliton stuff is made a lot lighter.
>  I think that the planes can work very well as a practice tool. 
> Especially if they allow you to fly more often.                  Mike
>
> */Amar Shan <shan at telus.net>/* wrote:
>
>     I bought one of these to enable flying closer to home, and I
>     expected that it would fly somewhat
>     akin to a 2m pattern plane.  It does not!
>      
>     - the wing loading seems very high.  The glide characteristics are
>     more akin to a winged brick
>       than a pattern plane ... it really seems to need to land with
>     power (or at least very nose down
>       until the flare)
>      
>     - Flying it with a Speed 480 - this seems quite inadequate to the
>     task.  Uplines are only
>       100-150 feet before it runs out of steam, and you simply cannot
>     pull into a vertical slowly
>       and expect the motor to "tractor" you upwards.  It also seems
>     slow, but I'm new to these
>       little electrics, so perhaps that's normal?
>      
>     - no braking on the downline at all.  Pushing the nose downwards
>     causes it to accelerate
>       at approximately 9.8 m/s/s  (32 feet per sec squared for our
>     American friends) ... :-)
>      
>     Any suggestions?  Has anyone found a way to lighten it?  I'm using
>     a 2150 mAH pack, micro
>     servos, miniature rx ... can't think of any obvious way to
>     decrease weight.   I don't have a spinner
>     on the plane, will that reduce performance?  Would an AXI 2808
>     give better performance?
>      
>     And lastly, if I'm expecting too much of this airplane, does
>     anyone have any good recommendations
>     for a mini (ie, school yard flyer) size pattern plane?
>      
>     Thanks!
>      
>     Amar
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