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I would suggest using the little electrics to become fully confident
with the use of the intended rudder in all aircraft attitudes. At best,
these planes fly differently enough to your pattern aircraft that bad
habits can be built up if you try flying a pattern. <br>
If you're completely confident in your rudder work, then use them to
have a blast trying out stuff you've never done before. Usually these
planes just bounce instead of explode when encountering terra firma.<br>
John<br>
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mike mueller wrote:
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<div> I owned one in the Spring. I liked it at first bu the more I
flew it the less I liked it. It flew too heavy. Mine was 32 oz. AUW
with TP 2100's and a Hacker A30M. I had tons of power with that setup. </div>
<div> Last year I had a Fliton Prodidy 3D. It flew a little better
but suffered from having too short of a nose moment and it was hard to
balance. I've been eying the new Fliton Insite Mini. It looks like it
would do the trick. The Fliton stuff is made a lot lighter. </div>
<div> I think that the planes can work very well as a practice tool.
Especially if they allow you to fly more often. Mike<br>
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<b><i>Amar Shan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:shan@telus.net"><shan@telus.net></a></i></b> wrote:</div>
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<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">I bought one of these to enable flying closer to
home, and I expected that it would fly somewhat </font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">akin to a 2m pattern plane. It does not!</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"></span> </div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">- the wing loading seems very high. The glide
characteristics are more akin to a winged brick </font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2"> than a pattern plane ... it really seems to
need to land with power (or at least very nose down</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2"> until the flare)</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"></span> </div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">- Flying it with a Speed 480 - this seems quite
inadequate to the task. Uplines are only</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2"> 100-150 feet before it runs out of steam, and
you simply cannot pull into a vertical slowly</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2"> and expect the motor to "tractor" you
upwards. It also seems slow, but I'm new to these</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2"> little electrics, so perhaps that's normal?</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"></span> </div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">- no braking on the downline at all. Pushing
the nose downwards causes it to accelerate</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2"> at approximately 9.8 m/s/s (32 feet per sec
squared for our American friends) ... :-)</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"></span> </div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">Any suggestions? Has anyone found a way to
lighten it? I'm using a 2150 mAH pack, micro</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">servos, miniature rx ... can't think of any
obvious way to decrease weight. I don't have a spinner</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">on the plane, will that reduce performance?
Would an AXI 2808 give better performance?</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"></span> </div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">And lastly, if I'm expecting too much of this
airplane, does anyone have any good recommendations</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">for a mini (ie, school yard flyer) size pattern
plane?</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"></span> </div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">Thanks!</font></span></div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"></span> </div>
<div><span class="399512516-18102006"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">Amar</font></span></div>
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