[NSRCA-discussion] Anyone use a Brio 10 (little electric) to practice pattern?

[mike mueller]

 I owned one in the Spring. I liked it at first bu the more I flew it the less I liked it. It flew too heavy. Mine was 32 oz. AUW with TP 2100's and a Hacker A30M. I had tons of power with that setup. 
   Last year I had a Fliton Prodidy 3D. It flew a little better but suffered from having too short of a nose moment and it was hard to balance. I've been eying the new Fliton Insite Mini. It looks like it would do the trick. The Fliton stuff is made a lot lighter. 
   I think that the planes can work very well as a practice tool. Especially if they allow you to fly more often.                  Mike

Amar Shan <shan at telus.net> wrote:
          I bought one of these to enable flying closer to home, and I expected that it would fly somewhat 
  akin to a 2m pattern plane.  It does not!
   
  - the wing loading seems very high.  The glide characteristics are more akin to a winged brick 
    than a pattern plane ... it really seems to need to land with power (or at least very nose down
    until the flare)
   
  - Flying it with a Speed 480 - this seems quite inadequate to the task.  Uplines are only
    100-150 feet before it runs out of steam, and you simply cannot pull into a vertical slowly
    and expect the motor to "tractor" you upwards.  It also seems slow, but I'm new to these
    little electrics, so perhaps that's normal?
   
  - no braking on the downline at all.  Pushing the nose downwards causes it to accelerate
    at approximately 9.8 m/s/s  (32 feet per sec squared for our American friends) ... :-)
   
  Any suggestions?  Has anyone found a way to lighten it?  I'm using a 2150 mAH pack, micro
  servos, miniature rx ... can't think of any obvious way to decrease weight.   I don't have a spinner
  on the plane, will that reduce performance?  Would an AXI 2808 give better performance?
   
  And lastly, if I'm expecting too much of this airplane, does anyone have any good recommendations
  for a mini (ie, school yard flyer) size pattern plane?
   
  Thanks!
   
  Amar
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