[NSRCA-discussion] New maneuver for Masters or FAI

Gray E Fowler gfowler at raytheon.com
Thu Oct 5 07:19:08 AKDT 2006


Very good Dave...you can email the video to me. You did have your Dad 
video the manuever right?

I have never flown an 8 point roll, but it must be some what difficult. 
The Thunderbirds F-16 does a near perfect 4 point roll-you cannot even see 
 a slight nose tilt up, but when they did the 8 point roll I had to 
give'em a 2 point downgrade for "flying the hump" instead of a straight 
line....Don Ramsey would have downgraded 2.5 points.....



Gray Fowler
Senior Principal Chemical Engineer
Radome and Composites Engineering
Raytheon



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Gray,
 
I accept.  And done.  Flew it last night.  Time on points is short, roll 
rate is a bit quick for pattern, but not too unlike what I see some 
Intermediates using for 2 rolls.  Certainly no more difficult than the 
current 8 point roll in PO7.
 
It does look cool, but there is not much time to add style and flair if 
you keep it in the box.
 
Dave
 
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Dave 

I designate you as the tester of this manuever-you can do it straight. It 
looked really cool, but is it hard? I expect a report back this time next 
week. 



Gray Fowler
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Radome and Composites Engineering
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Make it into a rolling circle! <G> 

Dave 
 
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Nah…he had it right. You reverse roll direction each time. ¾ right, 
5/4 left, ¾ right, 5/4 left…or the opposite. It’s a cool 
maneuver…just not sure there’s enough box… 

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3/4 + 5/4 = 8/4 =2 which would be upright, not inverted...  3/4 + 3/4 
would be 6/4 = 1.5 which is inverted... so it probably was 3/4 of a roll 
for each point. 
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I just went to the Fort Worth airshow and I saw a maneuver that is so cool 
that some class above me needs to adopt it. 
I am going to try to remember how it went.....it is a 4 point roll 


from straight flight 

3/4 roll right to knife edge (belly of the plane) 
5/4 roll left to inverted 
3/4 roll right to knife edge (top of the plane) 
5/4 roll to upright. 

Anyone ever see this and does it have a name. I may have gotten it 
slightly wrong, as it took me by surprise. It was Frank Ryder and the 
Oreck vacuum cleaner powered! plane- Cyclone.


Gray Fowler
Senior Principal Chemical Engineer
Radome and Composites Engineering
Raytheon 

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