<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Very good Dave...you can email the video
to me. You did have your Dad video the manuever right?</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I have never flown an 8 point roll,
but it must be some what difficult. The Thunderbirds F-16 does a near perfect
4 point roll-you cannot even see a slight nose tilt up, but when
they did the 8 point roll I had to give'em a 2 point downgrade for "flying
the hump" instead of a straight line....Don Ramsey would have downgraded
2.5 points.....</font>
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<br><font size=3>I accept. And done. Flew it last night. Time
on points is short, roll rate is a bit quick for pattern, but not too unlike
what I see some Intermediates using for 2 rolls. Certainly no more
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<br><font size=3>It does look cool, but there is not much time to add style
and flair if you keep it in the box.</font>
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I designate you as the tester of this manuever-you can do it straight.
It looked really cool, but is it hard? I expect a report back this time
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Make it into a rolling circle! <G> <br>
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<p><font size=2 color=#000080 face="Arial">Nah…he had it right. You
reverse roll direction each time. ¾ right, 5/4 left, ¾ right, 5/4 left…or
the opposite. It’s a cool maneuver…just not sure there’s
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<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman">3/4 + 5/4 = 8/4 =2 which would be
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I just went to the Fort Worth airshow and I saw a maneuver that is so cool
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I am going to try to remember how it went.....it is a 4 point roll</font><font size=3>
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from straight flight</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
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3/4 roll right to knife edge (belly of the plane)</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
5/4 roll left to inverted</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
3/4 roll right to knife edge (top of the plane)</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
5/4 roll to upright.</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
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Anyone ever see this and does it have a name. I may have gotten it slightly
wrong, as it took me by surprise. It was Frank Ryder and the Oreck vacuum
cleaner powered! plane- Cyclone.<br>
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