[NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries

Thu Mar 30 12:47:09 AKST 2006

Richard, can you explain why you got so many more flights in a given amount
of field time.  Less tinkering or what?  I've heard Chip make similar
comments.

Jim O

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Strickland" <richard.s at allied-callaway.com>
To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries

> There is a World of difference between a sport flyer and a pattern guy.
> Again, once I got programmed in what it took to practice and the
relatively
> small amount of time it took, I was able to go out and get 35-50 flights a
> week-I 'found' 1 1/2 to 2 hours more often as opposed to the 3-4 it used
to
> take and practiced more.  At that rate, when a guy gives you a 6 mo.
> guarantee-he'd better know the score-and what you expect in service
> turn-around.  Unlike a sport guy who flies 3-8 or so flights a weekend
where
> a 6 mo. guarantee would be reasonable.  I think many of the folks who are
in
> the battery business go from their experience as sport flyers and not
fairly
> serious pattern fiends where practice-practice-practice is such a large
> component of probable success.
>
> Richard
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]  On Behalf Of Stuart
Chale
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:27 AM
> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries
>
> George has been quick with email responses and very courteous, but it
> doesn't seem like he has the answers either.  I can't find his original
> email but he was unable to say that there are people with over 100 cycles
on
> a pack.  He is convinced that their technology is better than TP but will
> that translate into a longer life span?  It seems like we are being asked
to
> test batteries for the manufacturers instead of them testing their
products
> under our conditions.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Earl Haury
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:58 AM
> To: chad at f3acanada.org; NSRCA Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries
>
> Chad
>
> Your questions are probably best answered by Falcon
> George at FalconBatteries.com . I think that you'll find George quite open
with
>
> info, and I'd like to see your assessment of his answers.
>
> Earl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chad Northeast" <chadnortheast at shaw.ca>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries
>
>
> > Earl
> >
> > Does the Falcon warranty cover simply manufacturers defects...or will
they
>
> > replace any abuse/over charged/overdischarge/cycled out pack?
> >
> > I can't honestly believe that a manufacturer will replace every pack
that
> > fails, or they will be out of business in a short period of time :)  If
> > that is the case I can buy 4 sets of packs and never again purchase
> > another battery for as long as they will supply them regardless of
usage.
> >
> > Just looking for some clarification on their warranty statement.
> >
> > Do you know who is making the cells?  Their other packs are APL I
> > believe...wondering if they went to Enerland (like Apogee/Tanic/Flight
> > Power) did for the higher C cells.
> >
> > Chad
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Grow Pattern <pattern4u at comcast.net>
> > Date: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:26 am
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries
> >
> >> Earl,
> >>         You raise a very interesting point, What is sponsored?
> >>
> >> I used to think it was either that you got paid to fly by a
> >> manufacturer/supplier/business, or that you got your equipment
> >> free. But
> >> what if, for example, you got a discount on your OS 1.40 EFI ,or
> >> free fuel
> >> etc. Or another would be that you bought and built a plane but
> >> your
> >> batteries were post gratis.
> >>
> >> This could be harder to define than a pattern snap-roll. Hmmmm?
> >>
> >> To be clear to the potentially-paranoid-pattern-people",  I am
> >> interested
> >> for my own edification. (No hidden agenda). I do get asked my
> >> opinion on
> >> certain subjects and when I am not sure, I ask for my opinion :-)
> >>
> >> I would also add that many of the responses to the electric issues
> >> that I
> >> have raised have given me a much better and more balanced view
> >> than the one
> >> I had a few months ago.
> >>
> >> So, thanks in advance,
> >>
> >> Eric.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Earl Haury" <ehaury at houston.rr.com>
> >> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:04 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries
> >>
> >>
> >> > Stuart
> >> >
> >> > I'm using the first 4 packs sold. I've 48 cycles on one set 18
> >> on the
> >> > other.
> >> > So far they've been fine, very little (if any) balancing
> >> activity. Don't
> >> > have any idea what the cycle life will be - only time will tell.
> >> As the
> >> > weather improves, opportunity for more flying will accelerate cycle
> >> > accumulation a bunch. I hope that there's no need to exercise their
> >> > warranty, but it's a nice feature.
> >> >
> >> > Just so there's no misunderstanding - I gathered flight data to
> >> help
> >> > Falcon
> >> > define the pack parameters and received a bit of a discount
> >> (that local
> >> > sales tax mitigated) for that work. Don't know if that's considered
> >> > "sponsored", but I'm using them because they work and Falcon
> >> provides> excellent service. (I understand that they had some
> >> website problems
> >> > recently, if anyone has problems with it - a phone call will work.)
> >> >
> >> > Earl
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Stuart Chale" <schale at optonline.net>
> >> > To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:32 AM
> >> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Is anyone using the Falcon F3A cells advertised in the K-
> >> Factor?  Is
> >> >> there
> >> >> any track record behind them?
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Stuart
> >> >>
> >> >>
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