[NSRCA-discussion] rookie judge

[John Pavlick]

So.... how did we do it 3 years ago? :)

John Pavlick
http://www.idseng.com


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  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of John Ferrell
  Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:07 PM
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  The procedure turn allows time for the caller to get back to the pilot
station in time to enter the box.
  John Ferrell
  http://DixieNC.US

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Nat Penton
    To: NSRCA Mailing List
    Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 9:50 PM
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] rookie judge


    John
    I agree the procedure turn is a time and fuel waster. Someone said it
was incorporated to prevent hotdogging. I have occasionally flown the
procedure turn in knife edge since it is not a violation of the rules. I
think a prescribed 180 after TO would be just as effective in eliminating
hotdogging.

    One advantage of he procedure turn is that it gives a long trim pass.
This is seldom needed, however and I think saving judge time is more
important.              Nat
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: John Pavlick
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      Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:07 PM
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] rookie judge


      My understanding of the reason why we now score T.O. and landing as
"0" OR "10" was to save time (?) and make the judges job easier (???). Well,
last season we spent a lot of time at pilot's meetings talking about how to
"0" something that didn't fit the rulebook description. Or when exactly do
we call "Takeoff complete"? It was silly. The judges still need to watch the
Entire takeoff and landing sequence so again, what's the point. If you
wanted to save time on T.O. - don't do the freaking procedure turn. Takeoff,
turn 180 downwind, check trim, turn around and get in the box. If you're a
judge, assume that if it got into the box it did so while conforming to the
"rules". "10" - Done. The procedure turn is cool and it looks great, but it
takes more time to do, AND you spend more time in the overlapping region of
the other flight line (depending on the wind direction and which line you're
on of course). If you're going to go through all of that, then you should at
least get a good score for doing it well. Just my opinion.

      Also funny how now that electric is becoming more popular, we're
relaxing the rules about the airplane standing still before the takeoff
roll. Pretty soon it won't even matter - well, it will for some of us...
      John Pavlick
      http://www.idseng.com



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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Stuart Chale
      Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 9:12 AM
      To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] rookie judge


        Yes, it definitely took some skill to get the plane to rotate and
stay on the ground with the nose gear off the ground before smoothly taking
off.  Same for the landing with the nose gear up for a bit on rollout.



        Anyone know the thinking behind 0 to 10?  Seems that flying judged
on precision would not include a perfect score on a takeoff just jerked into
the sky.



        Stuart




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        From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
GSailwhale at aol.com
        Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:41 AM
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        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] rookie judge



        If we go back to judging takeoffs and landings, then I can go back
to tricycle gear and retracts......cool!!!!!

        Greg G



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