[NSRCA-discussion] rookie judge

[John Pavlick]

Ken,
 Yeah, I like the procedure turn too. It looks sexy. To be honest I think we
should in fact do the procedure turn AND judge T.O. and landing. My point
was if they were trying to save time, then why do it that way? OK, so it
only takes 15 seconds. A 180 turn takes 5 seconds and accomplishes the same
thing. Also, if you do a 180 turn, the downwind pass is shorter. More
precious time is saved. I was just questioning the reasoning behind the
whole thing.
 As a side note, sometimes a lot of time is spent waiting for judges to fill
the chairs before the first flight of the round.

John Pavlick
http://www.idseng.com


  -----Original Message-----
  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken Thompson
  Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:22 AM
  To: NSRCA Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] rookie judge


  Though I believe it appears that some of these things might save time on
the line, I don't remember seeing any difference in anyone's takeof and
landing, last season, because it wasn't judged.  Also if you think about it,
how much time does a procedure turn actually take?  I going to take a guess
at a maximum of 15 seconds.  If I'm right, that's about 7.5 minutes if you
have 30 pilots at a contest.  That is a total of 45 minutes for the 6
rounds.  We waste one heck of a lot more time than that waiting for pilots
to get to the line that weren't paying attention to the flight order.  That
is the real time killer...

  Side note:  I like the procedure turn, it gives me an absolute clean entry
to the first pass, plus I'm used to it:-)

  Ken
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Nat Penton
    To: NSRCA Mailing List
    Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 9:50 PM
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] rookie judge


    John
    I agree the procedure turn is a time and fuel waster. Someone said it
was incorporated to prevent hotdogging. I have occasionally flown the
procedure turn in knife edge since it is not a violation of the rules. I
think a prescribed 180 after TO would be just as effective in eliminating
hotdogging.

    One advantage of he procedure turn is that it gives a long trim pass.
This is seldom needed, however and I think saving judge time is more
important.              Nat

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