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<DIV><SPAN class=170275720-26032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Ken,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=170275720-26032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> Yeah, I like the procedure turn too. It looks sexy. To be
honest I think we should in fact do the procedure turn AND judge T.O. and
landing. My point was if they were trying to save time, then why do it that way?
OK, so it only takes 15 seconds. A 180 turn takes 5 seconds and accomplishes the
same thing. Also, if you do a 180 turn, the downwind pass is shorter. More
precious time is saved. I was just questioning the reasoning behind the whole
thing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=170275720-26032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> As a side note, sometimes a lot of time is spent waiting
for judges to fill the chairs before the first flight of the
round.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A href="http://www.idseng.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.idseng.com</A><BR> </FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ken
Thompson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:22 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] rookie
judge<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Though I believe it appears that some of these
things might save time on the line, I don't remember seeing any difference in
anyone's takeof and landing, last season, because it wasn't judged.
Also if you think about it, how much time does a procedure turn actually
take? I going to take a guess at a maximum of 15 seconds. If I'm
right, that's about 7.5 minutes if you have 30 pilots at a contest. That
is a total of 45 minutes for the 6 rounds. We waste one heck of a lot
more time than that waiting for pilots to get to the line that weren't paying
attention to the flight order. That is the real time
killer...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Side note: I like the procedure turn, it
gives me an absolute clean entry to the first pass, plus I'm used to
it:-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=natpenton@centurytel.net href="mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net">Nat
Penton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 25, 2006 9:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] rookie
judge</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I agree the procedure turn is a time and fuel
waster. Someone said it was incorporated to prevent hotdogging. I have
occasionally flown the procedure turn in knife edge since it is not a
violation of the rules. I think a prescribed 180 after TO would be just as
effective in eliminating hotdogging.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One advantage of he procedure turn is that
it gives a long trim pass. This is seldom needed, however and I think saving
judge time is more
important.
Nat</FONT></DIV>
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