[NSRCA-discussion] rookie judge

John Pavlick jpavlick at idseng.com
Sat Mar 25 17:02:56 AKST 2006


Matt,
 Cool, actually it was pretty clear before, but there were always questions
at pilot meetings. Remember, I'm new at this...

John Pavlick
http://www.idseng.com


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  Stuart, the 0 and 10 also started with F3A a bunch of years ago now. As
far as making the model rotate first and then take off, used to change the
main gear set-up to allow it.  It was pretty simple really.

  John, as far as "TO Complete", your Judging Committee had clarified that.
You may find the clarification on the website under Judging.

  MattK

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  From: John Pavlick <jpavlick at idseng.com>
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  Sent: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:07:04 -0500
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  My understanding of the reason why we now score T.O. and landing as "0" OR
"10" was to save time (?) and make the judges job easier (???). Well, last
season we spent a lot of time at pilot's meetings talking about how to "0"
something that didn't fit the rulebook description. Or when exactly do we
call "Takeoff complete"? It was silly. The judges still need to watch the
Entire takeoff and landing sequence so again, what's the point. If you
wanted to save time on T.O. - don't do the freaking procedure turn. Takeoff,
turn 180 downwind, check trim, turn around and get in the box. If you're a
judge, assume that if it got into the box it did so while conforming to the
"rules". "10" - Done. The procedure turn is cool and it looks great, but it
takes more time to do, AND you spend more time in the overlapping region of
the other flight line (depending on the wind direction and which line you're
on o! f course). If you're going to go through all of that, then you should
at least get a good score for doing it well. Just my opinion.

  Also funny how now that electric is becoming more popular, we're relaxing
the rules about the airplane standing still before the takeoff roll. Pretty
soon it won't even matter - well, it will for some of us...
  John Pavlick
  http://www.idseng.com


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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Stuart Chale
  Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 9:12 AM
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    Yes, it definitely took some skill to get the plane to rotate and stay
on the ground with the nose gear off the ground before smoothly taking off.
Same for the landing with the nose gear up for a bit on rollout.

    Anyone know the thinking behind 0 to 10?  Seems that flying judged on
precision would not include a perfect score on a takeoff just jerked into
the sky.

    Stuart


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    Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:41 AM
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    If we go back to judging takeoffs and landings, then I can go back to
tricycle gear and retracts......cool!!!!!
    Greg G
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