[NSRCA-discussion] Noise - Overfly - andDifferentAerobaticModel Types

[Dean Pappas]

Hi Marguerite,
There is no saint like a reformed sinner! Yes, up until twenty-four, or so, years ago, Pattern planes were the third loudest planes in Aeromodelling.
We came after the Pylon and CL Speed guys, including the pulse-jet Speed guys. Now, we are the quietest, save for the electric events and gliders.
 
Heavens yes, we have the moral high ground, and all the rest are miserable sinners! Yes, I am being sarcastic, but the point is useful: we need to help
everyone else in the hobby. Of course, some are reluctant to be helped: the worst heckler I ever had in giving my "how to get quiet" speech at a
club meeting was from the club President at a site that was largely IMAA-centric. Political correctness makes it easy to mistake the truth for 
"somebody-else-bashing". This is a trap we need to avoid: plain talk is necessary. (yes the pun was intentional)
 
Generally, my friends in IMAC suffer from a terrible noise cullture.
Part of the WOW factor is the doppler shift of the transonic prop tip noise: Waaaaaaaaoooooowwwww!
Just accept that that is the way it is, otherwise you can never affect it.
 
The biggest component in getting quiet enough to be good neighbors is the shift in culture.
One of the previous writers described his club's good results as a result of a well managed culture change.
Another described just the opposite. I apologize for not remembering who wrote those notes.
Fortunately, competitors are somewhat easier to "herd" into a new culture, as a result of a strong group identity.
Clubs often generate this strong sense of identity, after the noise complaints start.
 
now I'll contribute to the quiet ... shutting up:
                                                            Dean
 
 

Dean Pappas 
Sr. Design Engineer 
Kodeos Communications 
111 Corporate Blvd. 
South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
(908) 222-7817 phone 
(908) 222-2392 fax 
d.pappas at kodeos.com 

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Dave   
 What you say is very true.  There are many sport flyers out there with IMAC type airplanes   and appear to be part of IMAC. I am sure we are judged by there flying many times.
 This  is another reason why it is so important to have a group active in all club.  A group ready to answer IMAC questions We have to  (imac)  steer these sport flyers into a safe environment within the IMAC membership.
 
Now back to the pattern group...  Many of the pilots on this list remember when we could have taken this same conversation only it would have been the pattern planes that would lose our field. They were loud to fast and the pattern pilots thought who they were ...(that was what I heard I did not agree for sure!
 
 
I was President of our local club in NJ ( 3 years) when it was decided to ban pattern planes back about 17 or 18 years ago...
 
  I certainly did not move that suggestion along. I did my best to show the club that we needed to keep all groups flying in our club. 
IT was said we would lose our fields due to pattern.
 
 Several other clubs had lost fields due to pattern flying at that time. Pattern did not have a large following and there was not any support within the clubs.(sounds  a bit like IMAC right now)
 
 The club in the next town went ahead and put a ban on Pattern flying we did not. Two of the pilots in that club joined our club and remain flying pattern with us.
 (Ray T and MarkT)
 Pattern had a chance to show the club and the community just what it could do for its members and the hobby...
RAMAC is now one the best clubs in NJ and has held one of the finest pattern events for at least 19 years.
 
I have to thank Dean Pappas as he is Mr. NJ RAMAC he was one of the main reasons we have had successful events. RAMAC recently presented Dean with an award for his continued support of our pattern contest.
 
Lets make room for the future and see where it takes us.There is plenty of room for all groups. Fields are a problem but it not due to IMAC. Electric will take over in a big way we all know that. 
 I say we might have to travel further but there will be IMAC/Pattern  fields and lots to learn in the future from both groups.
Marguerte Gargiulo
IMAC 1820
Pattern 1184
AMA 168142
 

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