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<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Hi Marguerite,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>There is no saint like a reformed sinner!
Yes, up until twenty-four, or so, years ago, Pattern planes were the third
loudest planes in Aeromodelling.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>We came after the Pylon and CL
Speed guys, including the pulse-jet Speed guys. Now, we are the quietest,
save for the electric events and gliders.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Heavens yes, we have the moral high ground,
and all the rest are miserable sinners! Yes, I am being sarcastic, but the point
is useful: we need to help</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>everyone else in the hobby. Of course, some
are reluctant to be helped: the worst heckler I ever had in giving my "how to
get quiet" speech at a</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>club meeting was from the club President at
a site that was largely IMAA-centric. Political correctness makes it easy to
mistake the truth for </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>"somebody-else-bashing". This is a trap we
need to avoid: plain talk is necessary. (yes the pun was
intentional)</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Generally, my friends in IMAC suffer from
a terrible noise cullture.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Part of the WOW factor is the doppler shift
of the transonic prop tip noise: Waaaaaaaaoooooowwwww!</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Just accept that that is the way it is,
otherwise you can never affect it.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>The biggest component in getting quiet
enough to be good neighbors is the </SPAN><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>shift
in culture.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>One of the previous writers described his
club's good results as a result of a well managed culture change.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Another described just the opposite. I
apologize for not remembering who wrote those notes.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Fortunately, competitors are somewhat easier
to "herd" into a new culture, as a result of a strong group
identity.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Clubs often generate this strong sense of
identity, after the noise complaints start.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>now I'll contribute to the quiet ...
shutting up:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
class=778041916-03032006>
Dean</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
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face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
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face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>MargueriteVG@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 03, 2006 10:54
AM<BR><B>To:</B> nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Noise - Overfly - andDifferentAerobaticModel
Types<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Dave </DIV>
<DIV> What you say is very true. There are many sport flyers out
there with IMAC type airplanes and appear to be part of IMAC. I am
sure we are judged by there flying many times.</DIV>
<DIV> This is another reason why it is so important to
have a group active in all club. A group ready to answer IMAC
questions We have to (imac) steer these sport flyers into a
safe environment within the IMAC membership.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Now back to the pattern group... Many of the pilots on
this list remember when we could have taken this same conversation only it
would have been the pattern planes that would lose our field. They
were loud to fast and the pattern pilots thought who they were ...(that was
what I heard I did not agree for sure!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I was President of our local club in NJ ( 3 years) when it was
decided to ban pattern planes back about 17 or 18 years ago...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> I certainly did not move that suggestion along. I did my best to
show the club that we needed to keep all groups flying in our club. </DIV>
<DIV>IT was said we would lose our fields due to pattern.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Several other clubs had lost fields due to pattern flying at that
time. Pattern did not have a large following and there was not any support
within the clubs.(sounds a bit like IMAC right now)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> The club in the next town went ahead and put a ban
on Pattern flying we did not. Two of the pilots in that club joined our
club and remain flying pattern with us.</DIV>
<DIV> (Ray T and MarkT)</DIV>
<DIV> Pattern had a chance to show the club and the community just what
it could do for its members and the hobby...</DIV>
<DIV>RAMAC is now one the best clubs in NJ and has held one of the finest
pattern events for at least 19 years.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have to thank Dean Pappas as he is Mr. NJ RAMAC he was one of the main
reasons we have had successful events. RAMAC recently presented Dean with
an award for his continued support of our pattern contest.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Lets make room for the future and see where it takes us.There is plenty
of room for all groups. Fields are a problem but it not due to IMAC.
Electric will take over in a big way we all know that. </DIV>
<DIV> I say we might have to travel further but there will be
IMAC/Pattern fields and lots to learn in the future from both
groups.</DIV>
<DIV>Marguerte Gargiulo</DIV>
<DIV>IMAC 1820</DIV>
<DIV>Pattern 1184</DIV>
<DIV>AMA 168142</DIV>
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