[NSRCA-discussion] Break-in procedure for OS140
Amir Neshati
amirneshati at earthlink.net
Mon Jul 17 18:24:42 AKDT 2006
So you Texas folk don't just talk slow, you fly 'em slow too.... ;-)
Amir
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Colin,
I had it on my Aries till it met an untimely death by collison with the
swamp in Nedeland.
If was kind of errie to say the least. Much like and electric setup. It
did not spool up or unload like the smaller props.
On the verticals at 5/8 to 3/4 throttle and then advancing to full throttle
to did not accelerate but the extra 1/4 throttle helped like in the
avalanche or taller manuevers. Downlines were much,much better then a 17x12
and landings are a piece of cake. I often found myself advancing the
throttle a tick just before the pull out of a downline. The Mejlik is
lighter the an APC prop so I didnt notice a lot of spool up difference.
Only drw back is the price of the prop and it takes the right bushing to fit
on the OS crankshaft. TRY it and I think you will like it. When it gets
warmer out I noticed it getting a little warmer then usual so I opened th
top end a click or two to richen it and that seemd to help keep it cooler.
I think as Mike Harrison has found with the 18.1 x10 apc wide blade that
going to these larger props really helps with speed control. He is I
believe experimenting with a 18.5x9 wide blade APC.
Good Luck
Wayne Galligan
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From: colin <mailto:cchariandy at yahoo.ca> chariandy
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That big a prop seems unbelievable! How is the noise, speed and
acceleration?How critical is the set-up conditions , temperature , humidity
etc?
I do have one and may give it a try.
WAYNE <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com> wrote:
Yes to lengthening the pipe and then try to trichen it a little and see what
happens. I had mine at about 26.5 inches from the plug with and Aeroslave
pipe, low end at about 1'oclock or a little less and turning a 19x10 2-b c.f
Mejlik prop. Cool Power 15% turning about 7600 rpm.
So electric like it was nice.
Wayne Galligan
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From: colin <mailto:cchariandy at yahoo.ca> chariandy
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I've got a couple gallons through the new engine and I think it's now
properly broken in. The mid-range got a bit rich and clears abrutply with a
jump in rpm. I leaned the low end a little (from 12 to 1 o'clock position)
and the downline braking disappeared. Speed control with this set-up is
difficult. With the low end a bit rich speed is inconsistent on the
horizontal lines but downlines are good. With the low end a bit lean
downlines are too fast but the horizontal lines are good.
I'm at 26.25" from the plug and turning the 15x11x4 at 8100rpm.
Is there any benift to lengthening the pipe further?
Colin.
Ron Lockhart <ronlock at comcast.net> wrote:
My Aeroslave set up on OS 140 is maybe 1/2 inch longer.
Works nice, tachs 7,800 on ground on 15.75 x 10 3b.
Idle setting is very lean- I keep leaning it till it becomes hard to
start, then richen a bit.
Ron Lockhart
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From: Wayne Galligan <mailto:wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 5:13 PM
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Colin,
What is the length of you setup from the plug to the baffle inside? If I
remember right the baflle is 15" from the inlet.
Mine is at 26" from the plug and I finaLy was able to get a real good down
line braking and richen the low end out. The Aeroslave pipe will make a ton
of power in a shorter length but the engine gets peaky and will come on the
pipe or really unload. One thing about this pipe. If it is burbly rich in
the midrange the length is too short.
Wayne Galligan
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From: colin <mailto:cchariandy at yahoo.ca> chariandy
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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:40 AM
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Worked like a charm!!
The engine ran flawlessly on the first flight after the run-in. I'm using
the Aeroslave pipe and 15.5x12 4 blade. I'm about 1 3/4 out with the high
end and parallel with the cylinder for the low end screw. All seems OK....
good/slightly rich top end, reliable idle, rich in the middle but
accelerates with no problem, good downline braking. When should I start
moving the low end screw and where will the final position be ...typically?
Colin.
Mike Hester <kerlock at comcast.net> wrote:
Correction: Bottom end needle.....1/16 of a turn, not 1/8. The bottom end
screw is VERY sensitive.
-Mike
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From: Mike Hester <mailto:kerlock at comcast.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:42 AM
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I am going to write a full "care and feeding" article for the OS 140 for the
July K-Factor, but here's a good start.
First, set your low end screw parallel to the cylinder. 12 o'clock, straight
up and down. leave it there for the duration of the break in.
Use an APC 17x10N prop. use an OS F plug.
back the high end needle out 2 full turns. if you plane has a chin cowl,
remove it. This engine gets hot for the first run or 2 on the ground.
Crank the engine with a very high idle. Remove the igniter and then advance
the throttle to full power after about a minute. It should be spitting rich.
Turn the high end needle until it gets some good RPM but still very rich.
You should be putting out some serious smoke. let it run this way for about
5 minutes, no more.
Shut the engine off, and let it cool for about 1/2 hour. the more, the
better.
Fill the tank, crank it again, run it to full. This time go in on the needle
about 2 clicks and use that for the reference. About every 30-45 seconds,
lean it until it goes to max RPM, and not ANY further. Let it run this way
for about 5 seconds, and richen it back up. Cycle it this way for about 7
minutes. Shut down the engine, let it cool again.
Crank the 3rd time, and run it at the same setting for about 2 minutes. Now
lean it a couple of more clicks, and it should be still putting out some
serious smoke, but a little closer to full. Step back, and let it run wide
open for a minute, then begin throttling it back and forth every minute or
so. Run the tank out like this.
put it together and go fly it. Don't touch the needle. When you get to the
bottom of the 1st gallon, go in with the needle ONE click every flight until
you get max power. When your low end changes, set the low end (always more
lean, but not a whole lot. When you play with that bottom end, a little goes
a long way. Like 1/8 of a turn or so.
There are a lot of diffferent ways to do it; some people just set it rich
and fly. This way works every time though, and the engines last longer.
have fun,
-Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: colin chariandy <mailto:cchariandy at yahoo.ca>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:55 AM
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Break-in procedure for OS140
Just got a new OS140. I have'nt broken in one for 5 years...what's the
best/current practice for break-in?
Colin.
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