[NSRCA-discussion] 1 1/2 snap technique

[Ron Van Putte]

On Dec 6, 2006, at 8:53 AM, JShulman wrote:

> Yea... we are both getting old Dave...lol.

Rookies!  I have some shoes older than you guys.

Ron Van Putte
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> You flew back in 85?  You must be getting old!!!
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> I also flew Sportsman (402) at the 85 Nats,  my first Nats.  <G>
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> Dave
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> From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
> Only for the fact that I finished the contest and still had a plane  
> (finished last I think). I would have continued in 401, but they  
> didn't have it at the 85 Nats, so had to move up.
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> Anyway, make sure not to get stuck just trying one technique for  
> doing a snap. Try all sorts of set-ups and inputs. You'll find one  
> that works for you.
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> Regards,
> Jason
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> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken Thompson
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> Guess that makes you pretty special...
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> 401... the only time I flew 401 was when I was 7 years old (81  
> Jamesburg contest). And I don't think I was 2nd. You sure it wasn't  
> 402?
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> Regards,
> Jason
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> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Gray E Fowler
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> Jason
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> Your lack of a halo can be tracked back to that 401 contest that  
> you came in second against some "Old Guy"-probably 40 or so.
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> Gray Fowler
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> No wonder why I can't roll my snaps and score...
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> Regards,
> Jason
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> Keith
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> Proper execution, and thus good scoring of this manuever requires  
> years of preparation. First you must win both 402 and 403 at the  
> nationals hands down....no doubt about it, back to back then win  
> Masters the followin year in the same manner. This creates the  
> desired halo effect which will then allow you simply "roll" through  
> this  manuever without getting a zero.
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> I've seen many discussions on single snaps (pull elevator first,  
> follow with rudder and ailerons, and even some say reduce ailerons  
> and elevator as rotations begins, etc., etc.), but I've never seen  
> any discussion specifically regarding the 1 1/2 snap.
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> This year's Masters pattern has the 45 degree down 1 1/2 snap. I've  
> gotten pretty good at both the inverted and upright 45 degree  
> single snap but this 1 1/2 snap is a different animal in that the  
> up elevator that initiates the snap will cause the nose to drop  
> after the last 1/2 rotation if it's left in too long. I've not  
> flown it too many times, but the few times I've tried it I played  
> with pulling out the elevator and putting in a little down to try  
> and hold the nose on at 45 degree angle.
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> I'm curious to hear others thoughts on how to execute this 1 1/2 on  
> the 45 degree downline and keep the 45 degree heading.
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