[NSRCA-discussion] 1 1/2 snap technique

JShulman jshulman at cfl.rr.com
Wed Dec 6 05:49:00 AKST 2006


Yea... we are both getting old Dave...lol.

Regards,
Jason
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  You flew back in 85?  You must be getting old!!!

  I also flew Sportsman (402) at the 85 Nats,  my first Nats.  <G>

  Dave

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    From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>

    Only for the fact that I finished the contest and still had a plane
(finished last I think). I would have continued in 401, but they didn't have
it at the 85 Nats, so had to move up.

    Anyway, make sure not to get stuck just trying one technique for doing a
snap. Try all sorts of set-ups and inputs. You'll find one that works for
you.

    Regards,
    Jason
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    www.composite-arf.com

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      Guess that makes you pretty special...
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        401... the only time I flew 401 was when I was 7 years old (81
Jamesburg contest). And I don't think I was 2nd. You sure it wasn't 402?

        Regards,
        Jason
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        www.composite-arf.com

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          Jason

          Your lack of a halo can be tracked back to that 401 contest that
you came in second against some "Old Guy"-probably 40 or so.



          Gray Fowler
          Senior Principal Chemical Engineer
          Radome and Composites Engineering
          Raytheon


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          No wonder why I can't roll my snaps and score...

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          Jason
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          Keith

          Proper execution, and thus good scoring of this manuever requires
years of preparation. First you must win both 402 and 403 at the nationals
hands down....no doubt about it, back to back then win Masters the followin
year in the same manner. This creates the desired halo effect which will
then allow you simply "roll" through this  manuever without getting a zero.



          Gray Fowler
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          Radome and Composites EngineeringRayt heon

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          I've seen many discussions on single snaps (pull elevator first,
follow with rudder and ailerons, and even some say reduce ailerons and
elevator as rotations begins, etc., etc.), but I've never seen any
discussion specifically regarding the 1 1/2 snap.

          This year's Masters pattern has the 45 degree down 1 1/2 snap.
I've gotten pretty good at both the inverted and upright 45 degree single
snap but this 1 1/2 snap is a different animal in that the up elevator that
initiates the snap will cause the nose to drop after the last 1/2 rotation
if it's left in too long. I've not flown it too many times, but the few
times I've tried it I played with pulling out the elevator and putting in a
little down to try and hold the nose on at 45 degree angle.

          I'm curious to hear others thoughts on how to execute this 1 1/2
on the 45 degree downline and keep the 45 degree heading.

          Thanks,
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