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<DIV><SPAN class=790245314-06122006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Yea... we are
both getting old Dave...lol.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT
size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT>
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<DIV>You flew back in 85? You must be getting old!!!</DIV>
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<DIV>I also flew Sportsman (402) at the 85 Nats, my first Nats.
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<DIV>Dave</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=280231703-06122006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Only for
the fact that I finished the contest and still had a plane (finished last I
think). I would have continued in 401, but they didn't have it at the 85
Nats, so had to move up.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=280231703-06122006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Anyway,
make sure not to get stuck just trying one technique for doing a snap. Try
all sorts of set-ups and inputs. You'll find one that works for
you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT
size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Guess that makes you pretty
special...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=910213602-06122006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>401... the only time I flew 401 was when I was 7 years old
(81 Jamesburg contest). And I don't think I was 2nd. You sure it wasn't
402?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A
href="http://www.jasonshulman.com/">www.jasonshulman.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com/">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.composite-arf.com/">www.composite-arf.com</A></FONT>
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face=sans-serif size=2>Jason</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>Your lack of a halo can be tracked back to that 401 contest
that you came in second against some "Old Guy"-probably 40 or
so.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR><BR><BR>Gray
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face=Arial color=blue size=3>No wonder why I can't roll my snaps and
score...</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT>
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face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Keith</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Proper execution, and thus good scoring of
this manuever requires years of preparation. First you must win both
402 and 403 at the nationals hands down....no doubt about it, back to
back then win Masters the followin year in the same manner. This
creates the desired halo effect which will then allow you simply
"roll" through this manuever without getting a zero.</FONT><FONT
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size=3><BR><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>I've seen many
discussions on single snaps (pull elevator first, follow with rudder
and ailerons, and even some say reduce ailerons and elevator as
rotations begins, etc., etc.), but I've never seen any discussion
specifically regarding the 1 1/2 snap.</FONT><FONT size=3>
<BR> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>This year's Masters
pattern has the 45 degree down 1 1/2 snap. I've gotten pretty good at
both the inverted and upright 45 degree single snap but this 1 1/2
snap is a different animal in that the up elevator that initiates the
snap will cause the nose to drop after the last 1/2 rotation if it's
left in too long. I've not flown it too many times, but the few times
I've tried it I played with pulling out the elevator and putting in a
little down to try and hold the nose on at 45 degree
angle.</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR> </FONT><FONT face=Ar size=2 ial
!><BR>I'm curious to hear others thoughts on how to execute this 1 1/2
on the 45 degree downline and keep the 45 degree heading.</FONT><FONT
size=3> <BR> </FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><BR>Thanks,</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><BR>Keith Black</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT
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