[NSRCA-discussion] Where does center work out

[Dean Pappas]

Hi Gang,
It's interesting how we've been talking around the real question: we pretty much all know how it is supposed to be judged,
but now we are trying to figure out where the lowest common denominator is,
so that when the judge is tired, hot, dehydrated, ill-trained and is twenty minutes overdue for e pee break,
we won't force him to actually remember what the book says isn't really a downgrade.
 
The answer is to water and feed your judges regularly. Don't plant them too deep and they will grow ...
 
I know this is the obvious bit, but I had to say it.
 
Dean
 

Dean Pappas 
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Yes, I expect the 1/2 rolls will be faster, but they do not have to be, and whether the 1/2 rolls match the slow rolls or not is NOT a judging criteria.

Dave
 
 

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From: "Fred Huber" <fhhuber at clearwire.net> 

> the roll rate is EXPECTED to be different between the 2/2 and the slow roll. 
> I think they stuck the combo in to make sure pilots knew the difference 
> between a normal axial roll rate and a slow roll rate. 
> 
> 
> My observation... the ones who were getting good scores had the plane at 
> appx 1/4 roll in the slow roll as they passed center. This varied some 
> based on the difference in roll rates... so being ON Knife edge at center is 
> not a requirement, just a ballpark indicator. 
> Note: I haven't been judging Masters, just observing the judges and the 
> pilots' performance at the local contest. So I am ASSUMING they were 
> judging the maneuver correctly. 
> 
> I'm not sure how long of a ! hesitat ion between the 1/2 rolls is allowed 
> before it gets called inverted flight.... but a longer hesitation between 
> potentially could put the pause between the 2/2 and the slow roll on center. 
> (if a long enough hesitation is permissible) 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ed Miller" 
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:50 AM 
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Where does center work out 
> 
> 
> > Same here. To fit it all in the horizontal segment, the 2 - 1/2 rolls are 
> > at a higher roll rate than the slow roll and then the slow roll starts 
> > before center. If I speed up the slow roll rate, it basically doesn't look 
> > like a slow roll. I guess my question is, to get the best score, does the 
> > roll rate have to remain constant throughout the maneuver ?? 
&! gt; > ; Ed M. 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ron Lockhart" 
> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:03 AM 
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Where does center work out 
> > 
> > 
> > I sure don't have it figured out yet- But I'm working toward crisp 2/2 
> > and starting the slow roll a bit 
> > before center. Then, working on a not toooo slow, slow roll. 
> > 
> > Later, Ron 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Stuart Chale 
> > To: 'NSRCA Mailing List' 
> > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:59 PM 
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Maneuver 4 Masters pattern 
> > 
> > 
> > At least that one has an obvious center and is a normal length center 
> > maneuver. Who decided tha! t the o f two followed by a slow roll should be 
> > done on center J I have yet to fit that in the box J 
> > 
> > To those that have figured it out; what part of the sequence is coming 
> > out 
> > on center (besides the middle)? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Stuart 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > Jim, 
> > 
> > I'm not worried about cente! r right now, I'm just trying to get through 
> > it!!! : ) 
> > 
> > Greg Grigsby 
> > 
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