[NSRCA-discussion] me, at the Nats
JShulman
jshulman at cfl.rr.com
Thu Aug 3 09:24:12 AKDT 2006
No I'm not saying pick a team, I'm saying see what the finalists scored in
P-07
Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Grow Pattern
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:07 PM
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Nope!
Your still illogical. Teams in the worlds are defined by
countries. Are you saying pick a US team out of the Nationals p-07 group and
score it? Still doesn't make sense.
Elucidate at your leisure!
Eric.
Can't do district results without contestant data files, which I would
hastily add, I do not have access to this year - Eric.
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Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:03 PM
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Eric,
I don't think it's unfair to ask George about this. There is no need to
define a "team" or what the "team" would be flying against. There were 8
finalists (even though one was a Canadian) that flew well enough to be in
the finals, and I would just like to see how we did in the P-07. Remember,
the Team at the Worlds is determined by P-07, and hypothetically looking at
P-07 we would see who did the best (in George's eye) in P-07. Again, please
remember, this is all for FUN and nothing more.
Also, when are you going to have the District results for us Eric...
it's only Excel...lol.
Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Grow Pattern
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:09 PM
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Jason,
Ref. "Hey George, if you feel like it, how about posting the results
of the Finalists P-07 rounds? See how a "Team" would have done."
It's a bit unfair to ask Georgie to do that because he can't do it
unless you, a) define a team and, b) define what teams that team would be
flying against.
At one time I was hoping that we would have District team awards in
our FAI prelims and in each of the other classes. It would have been great
to see which districts won a "National" team title. It did not have to be an
AMA award but just like our district individual District champions it would
have added a nice flavor. I think it was a wee bit too radical at the time.
You could do it now. All you have to do is add up the top three scores
from each district in each class. You could do it in Excel in about four
minutes if you had the results files and plugged in a district column.
One for Rusty Dose perhaps?
Regards,
Eric.
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Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:52 PM
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Hi George,
Great write-up, again, and as always it's fun seeing how you scored
us. It was great to sit and chat with you at the times we did.
I really enjoyed this years Nats. I made it a point to make this a
FUN Nats for myself, my friends and anyone that was around me. I think it
happened. But I think it drained me of most of my energy, so next year I'll
have to be more "serious".
Just for fun, I dropped the lowest of each F-07 and Unknowns like we
would to determine the winner and the results are as follows:
Jay F-07-1 = 998, Unk -2 = 1000 Total = 1998
Chip F-07-2 = 971, Unk -2 = 997 Total = 1968
Don F-07-1 = 965, Unk - 1 =1000 Total = 1965
Sean F-07-2 = 984, Unk - 1 = 978 Total = 1962
QQ F-07-1 = 959, Unk - 1 = 987 Total = 1946
Andrew F-07-1 = 1000, Unk-2 = 942 Total = 1942
Dave L F-07-2 = 946, Unk - 1 = 959 Total = 1905
Chad F-07-1 = 895, Unk-2 = 911 Total = 1806
As you can see, the results changed a little bit: 1st = Jay, 2nd =
Chip, 3rd = Don, 4th = Sean, 5th = QQ, 6th = Andrew, 7th = Dave L., 8th =
Chad
Anyone else have a "score card" to add to the fun?
Hey George, if you feel like it, how about posting the results of
the Finalists P-07 rounds? See how a "Team" would have done.
Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of george w.
kennie
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:23 PM
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] me, at the Nats
OK Guys, here goes............................
2006 Nats is history and being there was, as always, a priviledge
that I will probably not be able to enjoy for too many more years, but the
experience creates an indelible memory event that burns in your psyche for
an indefinite period of time.
The really special part of the experience is the people. I think
that this is my 5th year and renewing aquaintances previously made and
meeting new people is fabulous. I arrived Sat nite and got my tent set up in
it's usual place and realized that it was still light out as this is the
first year that Indiana has gone on Daylight Savings time so it was light
out 'til almost quarter to ten. There was more than one nite that Sean
McMurtry was actually flying at 9:30 P.M.
Sunday morning saw me out on the flight line early and Troy was
putting up some practice flights and we spent a few minutes
discussing/sharing flight elements and execution anomalies and corrective
inputs. Received so many familiar hellos from the likes of Earl, Robert G.,
Harry Ells, the Canadians, the D1 guys, and so many that they are too
numerous to mention. Also spent quite a few minutes talking with Sean who is
a real friendly individual and a real gentleman, who informed me that he was
competing with Naruke's actual airplane. That thing was gorgeous and the
detail of the craftsmanship was astounding.The pipe mount was to die for!
Instantaneously removable and absolutely foolproof ! What a work of art.
Up to now I had been at site 1 so I decided to go over to site 3
and see what was going on over there. As I was driving over, I thought to
myself, "it's only 9:30 and if this was over right now, I have already had
the greatest time, and the contest hasn't even started yet. At site 3 it was
almost a repeat of greetings and after a settling down period I started to
watch some practice flights. Jim Woodward showed that his efforts over the
last year were not wasted as his flying was top notch.Jim decided that his
electric was not giving him the best opportunity for the scores he felt he
was capable of so after a couple of days with the electric he made the
switch to glow and felt that he did indeed improve his standings.
At one point, I was sitting out under the judges sunshade during a
practice session observing the flyers executing their sequences and who
pulls up a chair and begins to chat , but Jason. Now I have to tell you that
Jason really didn't know me from Adam and yet he was the most affable
friendly guy you could ever hope to meet. I teased the daylights out of him
about getting a haircut and tried a whole bunch of stuff to rattle his cage
and he would just come back with a quick quip and put you totally at ease.
What a wonderful kid !!!!!!!!!! I love'im (and no, that didn't influence my
scores)
All the old stand-bys were there to keep everything running
smoothly. Bobby Stout, John and Bill, Jerry P., line chiefs that I didn't
know, but everybody did a teriffic job of making it a well run event.
I met some neat new guys on site 4. There was a fellow flying a
Nat Penton Voodoo Express ( I think his name was Lewis). Another kid flying
an Adrenaline named Paul Futey. It was great to see again Carl Zavalney, and
Keith Black and it's impossible to remember everybody, but like I said, you
really feel that this is a special experience.
Monday morning I got into my trusty chair behind the flight line
and did some P07 scoring to try to sharpen up my judging skills in
preparation for the real serious stuff. I Scored the guys that I thought
would be in the thick of it at the end on site one, first round. One
individual that impressed me was Chad Northeast.Chad was flying an airplane
called a Twister that I think is a Synergy derivitive powered by a
Plettenberg electric and it was balletic. The plane flew, what appeared to
me, to fly slower than anybody else's electric and Chad was quite precise in
his execution. I let him know that I thought he was doing well after his
flight. I discovered later when I checked my numbers that his scores were a
little lower than most of the top guys, but there's something about his
presentation that keeps you rivetted. His is indeed a very pleasant
presentation. After that round I went to site 3 and scored a few guys over
there, knowing that at this juncture in time, all that I was doing was
getting a feel for consistancy.
The first 3 days were spent trying to get my head to interpret
what my eyes were seeing, but on the 4th day things really got heated up (
of course Muncie was it's usual high temp environment as well). I feel that
being away from the competition environment for a year and being a year
older that I'm starting to lose a little of my sharpness and judging ability
as I was concious at times that I was occasionally missing a few things, but
I think the overall relativity of the scores that I arrived at are still
consistant within that envelope.
I found out that my position, 50 feet behind the judges does not
afford me a view of the box constraints and although I scored Troy quite
highly, I was advised later that he had quite a few box violations because
he flew in too close which knocked him out of the finals.Needless to say, I
was saddened to learn of this as he takes the sport very seriously and I
like to see him do well. He had a really nice airplane and flew it with the
skill of the top eschelon pilots.
Since returning home I have been quite busy so haven't had time to
get to my scoring etchings till now. Seeing as Vicente was kind enough to
send us Northerners a good dose of Kansas weather (it's 100 degrees here
today) I have been quarantined to the indoors with a little extra time so I
thought I would pull out my score sheets and run the numbers in order to see
how I stacked up against the official results.
This number thing is a real revelation. It seems to indicate
trends and weaknesses and consistancy of each individual. Sometimes as you
begin to tabulate the results it can get pretty scary when there are only 5
points separating the first 4 guys you've totalled. I felt, before I left
for the Nats this year, that it was probably going to be a tight race, with
Sean and Jason in attendance and was looking forward to the outcome with
great anticipation.
Last year I felt that Chip flew poorly and I was surprised to hear
that he had done well at the Worlds. Well I have to tell you that this year
he vindicated himself on my scorecard.He seems to have the ability to do
better when the pressure is greatest and really comes through.
The day of the finals was a nightmare !!!!!!!!!!! The day started
out overcast, but not excessively windy, so the first round of F07 presented
no more problems than anticipated and everyone flew O.K.
Next came the first unknown and you begin to see in the scores
areas of weaknesses and strengths in the different individuals. Some
individuals displayed tremendous consistancy no matter what was thrown at
them with their scores staying within close proximities (Chad, Chip, Jay,
QQ). It's probably unfair to some individuals to rate them in exactly this
way due to rthe extreme weather that blew in for the last couple of
rounds.This contest may have had a totally different outcome without the
extremes of weather that these poor souls had to tolerate. In the final
round, Dave L and Don were required to fly in winds that were just under the
threshold (40mph) and it hadn't let up very much when Chip flew last and
almost won the round on my scorecard.
Please remember, these are only MY reflections, and there is no
way to verify my qualifications for my conclusions or even indicate that I
know what I'm talking about, however, what is certainly true is that these
eight individuals flew very difficult sequences in a manner that was
exemplary and with extremely closely matched performances. This was tight
flying my friends !!!!!!!!
Here's what I have:
Andrew, F-07-1 = 1000, F-07-2 = 1000, Unk -1 = 937, Unk-2 = 942
Total = 3879
Chad, F-07-1 = 895, F-07-2 = 894, Unk - 1 = 895, Unk-2 = 911 Total
= 3595
Chip, F-07-1 = 964, F-07-2 = 971, Unk - 1 = 989, Unk -2 = 997
Total = 3921
Dave L F-07-1 = 905, F-07-2 = 946, Unk - 1 = 959, Unk -2 = 903
Total = 3713
Don F-07-1 = 965, F-07-2 = 954, Unk - 1 =1000, Unk -2 = 923 Total
= 3842
Jay F-07-1 = 998, F-07-2 = 961, Unk - 1 = 989, Unk -2 = 1000 Total
= 3948
Sean F-07-1 = 960, F-07-2 = 984, Unk - 1 = 978, Unk - 2 = 879
Total = 3801
QQ F-07-1 = 959, F-07-2 = 958, Unk - 1 = 987, Unk - 2 = 942 Total
= 3846
My numbers indicate an order of finish as follows: 1st = Jay, 2nd
= Chip, 3rd = Andrew, 4th = QQ, 5th = Don, 6th = Sean, 7th = Dave L., 8th =
Chad .
I had no idea what these numbers were going to show until today
and am as surprised as anybody. I think Chad's one point consistancy over
the first three rounds astounding. Chip worked at keeping his scores up
every round to win a well deserved second. Andrew, make yourself up an
unknown sequence every week and work on unfamiliar stuff. It's obvious you
nail everything you get to practice (you surprised me). Don was unfairly
sentenced in the final round. Just wait 'til next year.
Great work you guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Georgie
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