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<DIV><SPAN class=960222217-03082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>No I'm not
saying pick a team, I'm saying see what the finalists scored in
P-07</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT
size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Grow
Pattern<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] me, at the
Nats<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nope!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
Your still illogical. Teams in the worlds are defined by countries. Are
you saying pick a US team out of the Nationals p-07 group and score it? Still
doesn't make sense.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Elucidate at your leisure!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eric.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can't do district results without contestant data
files, which I would hastily add, I do not have access to this year -
Eric.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=jshulman@cfl.rr.com href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">JShulman</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:03
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] me, at
the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=620025815-03082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Eric,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=620025815-03082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=620025815-03082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I don't
think it's unfair to ask George about this. There is no need to define a
"team" or what the "team" would be flying against. There were 8 finalists
(even though one was a Canadian) that flew well enough to be in the finals,
and I would just like to see how we did in the P-07. Remember, the Team at
the Worlds is determined by P-07, and hypothetically looking at P-07 we
would see who did the best (in George's eye) in P-07. Again, please
remember, this is all for FUN and nothing more.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=620025815-03082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=620025815-03082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Also,
when are you going to have the District results for us Eric... it's only
Excel...lol.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT
size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Grow
Pattern<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:09 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] me, at the
Nats<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jason,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ref. "<FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=040533323-02082006>Hey George, if you feel like
it, how about posting the results of the Finalists P-07 rounds? See how a
"Team" would have done."</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It's a bit unfair to ask Georgie to do that
because he can't do it unless you, a) define a team and, b)
define what teams that team would be flying against.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At one time I was hoping that we would have
District team awards in our FAI prelims and in each of the other
classes. It would have been great to see which districts won a
"National" team title. It did not have to be an AMA award but just
like our district individual District champions it would have
added a nice flavor. I think it was a wee bit too radical at the
time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You could do it now. All you have to do is
add up the top three scores from each district in each class. You could do
it in Excel in about four minutes if you had the results files and plugged
in a district column. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One for Rusty Dose perhaps?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,<BR><BR>Eric.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">JShulman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 02, 2006
7:52 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] me,
at the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=040533323-02082006>Hi
George,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=040533323-02082006>Great
write-up, again, and as always it's fun seeing how you scored us.
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>It was great to sit and chat with you
at the times we did.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=040533323-02082006>I
really enjoyed this years Nats. I made it a point to make this a FUN
Nats for myself, my friends and anyone that was around me. I think it
happened. But I think it drained me of most of my energy, so next year
I'll have to be more "serious".</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=040533323-02082006>Just
for fun, I dropped the lowest of each F-07 and Unknowns like we would to
determine the winner and the results are as follows:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><SPAN class=040533323-02082006><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial>Jay
F-07-1 = 998, Unk -2 = 1000 Total
= <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>1998</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><SPAN class=040533323-02082006><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Chip <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>F-07-2 =
971, <SPAN class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Unk -2 =
997 <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>
</SPAN>Total = <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>1968</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN>
<DIV><SPAN class=040533323-02082006></SPAN><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff>Don <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>
</SPAN>F-07-1 = 965, <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Unk - 1 =1000<SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Total
= <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>1965</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=040533323-02082006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Sean <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>F-07-2 =
984, <SPAN class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Unk - 1 =
978 <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Total
= <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>1962</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>QQ
F-07-1 = 959, Unk - 1 = 987<SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Total
= <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>1946</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=040533323-02082006><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Andrew <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>F-07-1 = 1000, Unk-2 =
942 <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Total
= <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>1942</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=040533323-02082006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Dave L <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN> F-07-2 = 946, <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Unk - 1 = 959<SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Total
= <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>1905</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Chad <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>F-07-1 =
895, <SPAN class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Unk-2 =
911 <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Total
= <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>1806</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>As you can see, the results changed a little
bit: 1st = Jay, 2nd = Chip, 3rd = Don, 4th = Sean, 5th = QQ, 6th =
Andrew, 7th = Dave L., 8th = Chad</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>Anyone else have a "score card" to add to the
fun?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>Hey George, if you feel like it, how about
posting the results of the Finalists P-07 rounds? See how a "Team" would
have done.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT
size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT>
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</B>george w. kennie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:23
PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[NSRCA-discussion] me, at the Nats<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P>OK Guys, here goes............................</P>
<P>2006 Nats is history and being there was, as always, a priviledge
that I will probably not be able to enjoy for too many more years, but
the experience creates an indelible memory event that burns in your
psyche for an indefinite period of time.</P>
<P>The really special part of the experience is the people. I think
that this is my 5th year and renewing aquaintances previously made and
meeting new people is fabulous. I arrived Sat nite and got my tent set
up in it's usual place and realized that it was still light out as
this is the first year that Indiana has gone on Daylight Savings time
so it was light out 'til almost quarter to ten. There was more than
one nite that Sean McMurtry was actually flying at 9:30 P.M.</P>
<P>Sunday morning saw me out on the flight line early and Troy was
putting up some practice flights and we spent a few minutes
discussing/sharing flight elements and execution anomalies and
corrective inputs. Received so many familiar hellos from the likes of
Earl, Robert G., Harry Ells, the Canadians, the D1 guys, and so many
that they are too numerous to mention. Also spent quite a few minutes
talking with Sean who is a real friendly individual and a real
gentleman, who informed me that he was competing with Naruke's actual
airplane. That thing was gorgeous and the detail of the craftsmanship
was astounding.The pipe mount was to die for! Instantaneously
removable and absolutely foolproof ! What a work of art.</P>
<P>Up to now I had been at site 1 so I decided to go over to site 3
and see what was going on over there. As I was driving over, I thought
to myself, "it's only 9:30 and if this was over right now, I have
already had the greatest time, and the contest hasn't even started
yet. At site 3 it was almost a repeat of greetings and after a
settling down period I started to watch some practice flights. Jim
Woodward showed that his efforts over the last year were not wasted as
his flying was top notch.Jim decided that his electric was not giving
him the best opportunity for the scores he felt he was capable of so
after a couple of days with the electric he made the switch to glow
and felt that he did indeed improve his standings.</P>
<P>At one point, I was sitting out under the judges sunshade during a
practice session observing the flyers executing their sequences and
who pulls up a chair and begins to chat , but Jason. Now I have to
tell you that Jason really didn't know me from Adam and yet he was the
most affable friendly guy you could ever hope to meet. I teased the
daylights out of him about getting a haircut and tried a whole bunch
of stuff to rattle his cage and he would just come back with a quick
quip and put you totally at ease. What a wonderful kid !!!!!!!!!! I
love'im (and no, that didn't influence my scores)</P>
<P>All the old stand-bys were there to keep everything running
smoothly. Bobby Stout, John and Bill, Jerry P., line chiefs that I
didn't know, but everybody did a teriffic job of making it a well run
event.</P>
<P>I met some neat new guys on site 4. There was a fellow flying a Nat
Penton Voodoo Express ( I think his name was Lewis). Another kid
flying an Adrenaline named Paul Futey. It was great to see again Carl
Zavalney, and Keith Black and it's impossible to remember everybody,
but like I said, you really feel that this is a special
experience.</P>
<P>Monday morning I got into my trusty chair behind the flight line
and did some P07 scoring to try to sharpen up my judging skills in
preparation for the real serious stuff. I Scored the guys that I
thought would be in the thick of it at the end on site one, first
round. One individual that impressed me was Chad Northeast.Chad was
flying an airplane called a Twister that I think is a Synergy
derivitive powered by a Plettenberg electric and it was balletic. The
plane flew, what appeared to me, to fly slower than anybody else's
electric and Chad was quite precise in his execution. I let him know
that I thought he was doing well after his flight. I discovered later
when I checked my numbers that his scores were a little lower than
most of the top guys, but there's something about his presentation
that keeps you rivetted. His is indeed a very pleasant presentation.
After that round I went to site 3 and scored a few guys over there,
knowing that at this juncture in time, all that I was doing was
getting a feel for consistancy.</P>
<P>The first 3 days were spent trying to get my head to interpret what
my eyes were seeing, but on the 4th day things really got heated up (
of course Muncie was it's usual high temp environment as well). I feel
that being away from the competition environment for a year and being
a year older that I'm starting to lose a little of my sharpness and
judging ability as I was concious at times that I was occasionally
missing a few things, but I think the overall relativity of the scores
that I arrived at are still consistant within that envelope.</P>
<P>I found out that my position, 50 feet behind the judges does not
afford me a view of the box constraints and although I scored Troy
quite highly, I was advised later that he had quite a few box
violations because he flew in too close which knocked him out of the
finals.Needless to say, I was saddened to learn of this as he takes
the sport very seriously and I like to see him do well. He had a
really nice airplane and flew it with the skill of the top eschelon
pilots. </P>
<P>Since returning home I have been quite busy so haven't had time to
get to my scoring etchings till now. Seeing as Vicente was kind enough
to send us Northerners a good dose of Kansas weather (it's 100 degrees
here today) I have been quarantined to the indoors with a little extra
time so I thought I would pull out my score sheets and run the numbers
in order to see how I stacked up against the official results.</P>
<P></P>
<P>This number thing is a real revelation. It seems to indicate trends
and weaknesses and consistancy of each individual. Sometimes as you
begin to tabulate the results it can get pretty scary when there are
only 5 points separating the first 4 guys you've totalled. I felt,
before I left for the Nats this year, that it was probably going to be
a tight race, with Sean and Jason in attendance and was looking
forward to the outcome with great anticipation.</P>
<P>Last year I felt that Chip flew poorly and I was surprised to hear
that he had done well at the Worlds. Well I have to tell you that this
year he vindicated himself on my scorecard.He seems to have the
ability to do better when the pressure is greatest and really comes
through.</P>
<P>The day of the finals was a nightmare !!!!!!!!!!! The day started
out overcast, but not excessively windy, so the first round of F07
presented no more problems than anticipated and everyone flew O.K.</P>
<P>Next came the first unknown and you begin to see in the scores
areas of weaknesses and strengths in the different individuals. Some
individuals displayed tremendous consistancy no matter what was thrown
at them with their scores staying within close proximities (Chad,
Chip, Jay, QQ). It's probably unfair to some individuals to rate them
in exactly this way due to rthe extreme weather that blew in for the
last couple of rounds.This contest may have had a totally different
outcome without the extremes of weather that these poor souls had to
tolerate. In the final round, Dave L and Don were required to fly in
winds that were just under the threshold (40mph) and it hadn't let up
very much when Chip flew last and almost won the round on my
scorecard.</P>
<P>Please remember, these are only MY reflections, and there is no way
to verify my qualifications for my conclusions or even indicate that I
know what I'm talking about, however, what is certainly true is that
these eight individuals flew very difficult sequences in a manner that
was exemplary and with extremely closely matched performances. This
was tight flying my friends !!!!!!!!</P>
<P>Here's what I have:</P>
<P></P>
<P>Andrew, F-07-1 = 1000, F-07-2 = 1000, Unk -1 = 937, Unk-2 = 942
Total = 3879</P>
<P>Chad, F-07-1 = 895, F-07-2 = 894, Unk - 1 = 895, Unk-2 = 911 Total
= 3595</P>
<P>Chip, F-07-1 = 964, F-07-2 = 971, Unk - 1 = 989, Unk -2 = 997 Total
= 3921<BR></P>
<P>Dave L F-07-1 = 905, F-07-2 = 946, Unk - 1 = 959, Unk -2 = 903
Total = 3713</P>
<P>Don F-07-1 = 965, F-07-2 = 954, Unk - 1 =1000, Unk -2 = 923 Total =
3842</P>
<P>Jay F-07-1 = 998, F-07-2 = 961, Unk - 1 = 989, Unk -2 = 1000 Total
= 3948</P>
<P>Sean F-07-1 = 960, F-07-2 = 984, Unk - 1 = 978, Unk - 2 = 879 Total
= 3801</P>
<P>QQ F-07-1 = 959, F-07-2 = 958, Unk - 1 = 987, Unk - 2 = 942 Total =
3846</P>
<P>My numbers indicate an order of finish as follows: 1st = Jay, 2nd =
Chip, 3rd = Andrew, 4th = QQ, 5th = Don, 6th = Sean, 7th = Dave L.,
8th = Chad .</P>
<P>I had no idea what these numbers were going to show until today and
am as surprised as anybody. I think Chad's one point consistancy over
the first three rounds astounding. Chip worked at keeping his scores
up every round to win a well deserved second. Andrew, make yourself up
an unknown sequence every week and work on unfamiliar stuff. It's
obvious you nail everything you get to practice (you surprised me).
Don was unfairly sentenced in the final round. Just wait 'til next
year.</P>
<P>Great work you guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!</P>
<P>Georgie</P></FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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