[NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot

George Kennie geobet at gis.net
Tue Apr 4 08:19:53 AKDT 2006 

Count me IN too !!!!!

Nat Penton wrote:

> Bravo Dave, we can be on the same team         Nat
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Burton" <burtona at bellsouth.net>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
>
> > One of the things I've always liked about Pattern is competing against the
> > best in whatever class I've ever flown. I don't want a separate category
> > for
> > the "Unsponsored Loser", or a separate category for the "Older Losers" or
> > any category other than the class I fly. I probably won't win anymore in
> > FAI
> > due to: (1) lack of talent to begin with, (2) lack of Practice, (3) being
> > 65
> > years old with all the problems that brings, (4) obsolete equipment, and
> > any
> > other excuse I can think of. But don't patronize me with a separate class.
> > I'll fly as best I can against the big boys and just have fun wherever I
> > place.
> > Please, no more whining about sponsored pilots. They have earned what they
> > get from their sponsors because their sponsors think it's good for
> > business.
> > If you think they have an advantage, so what. Just fly better!
> > Dave Burton
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Grow
> > Pattern
> > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:39 PM
> > To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
> >
> >
> > BTW - in my original postings I was only leading to suggesting the thought
> > that the winners who are not sponsored should be recognized within a class
> > and or given their own "highest amateur award, or something like that.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Eric.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "White, Chris" <chris at ssd.fsi.com>
> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
> >
> >
> >>I wish to offend no one, but wanted to give another perspective.
> >>
> >> I'm SURE that sponsorship is an advantage....but it is still up to the
> >> pilot to get out there and practice with determination and the intent to
> >> be the best he can be.  Yeah, I wish I didn't have to risk so much money
> >> every time that bird goes in the air. But, sponsorship probably doesn't
> >> buy personal satisfaction for many.  We are all trying to be the best we
> >> can even if our funds or participation is limited.  We are striving for
> >> that perfect flight, for equipment that is reliable, for airplanes that
> >> keep getting better, for friendships that grow & grow. We could probably
> >> spend far less money and buy trophies or plaques...but the real value in
> >> competition is FUN....FUN....FUN.  It doesn't seem to matter where I've
> >> been...I've had a great time and everyone helps everyone get their
> >> rounds in...even if they know that pilot could beat them out of that
> >> round.  Never have I seen so many good people, trying so hard to become
> >> their personal best no matter what their interest in competition.  Some
> >> guys are striving to be the best pilots, best designers, best builders,
> >> best innovators...but mainly they are trying to see that competition
> >> flying stays healthy and will do their dead-level best to promote anyone
> >> to their best.  I haven't flown with anyone I didn't like, admire or
> >> respect in one way or another.  Sponsors...please keep sponsoring...may
> >> you sell tons of stuff and may the sport live on and prosper.  Thanks to
> >> anyone who encourages another...that is what makes the sport grow. I've
> >> been blessed to see few sour grapes....most of the guys are just glad to
> >> spend a weekend flying their best with friends, family and new
> >> acquaintances.
> >>
> >> To all the sponsored guys....thanks for your promotion, hard work, and
> >> for showing us your skills.  I love to watch good flying regardless of
> >> who's doing it, or how many advantages they may have...more power to
> >> you!  I was fortunate enough to spend a nats next door to Quique and his
> >> family.  I caught Quique at his van checking equipment, as I was doing,
> >> and we talked for a while.  I discovered that this great pilot loves all
> >> this stuff just like I do.... You top guys just keep flying pretty and
> >> we'll always have something to aim for....:)  Oh, and along the
> >> way...thanks for the show!
> >>
> >> "It's not the destination, It's the Journey"   (What makes the journey
> >> worthwhile?)
> >>
> >> In any case, I wish to participate to any degree that I can. Sometimes
> >> when I'm practicing I see something come together really well and it
> >> makes me feel precise..and I'm like: "Yeah baby"....that's why I like to
> >> fly pattern!
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> >> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> >> Wickizer
> >> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 12:49 PM
> >> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
> >>
> >> How many pilots in Intermediate and Advanced have an advantage due to
> >> sponsorship?
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "Del K. Rykert" <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com>
> >>>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >>>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
> >>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:42:13 -0400
> >>>
> >>>Sponsorship does have negative aspects also Nat.  Well true, that the
> >>>majority of sponsored pilots have garnered their sponsorship through
> >> their
> >>>genuine ability this has not always been the case. Sponsorship, can
> >> give
> >>>some pilots, if all other things are equal regarding skill an
> >> advantage. Is
> >>>very similar to the argument that it is not the equipment... BUT the
> >> skill
> >>>of the pilot that is truly the difference. The truth is better
> >> equipment,
> >>>whether obtained through ones own pockets that may be deeper than
> >> others or
> >>>through sponsorship does make the workload less for the competitive
> >> pilot
> >>>so they can focus more of their energy on improving their skills.  The
> >>>disadvantaged always have a harder time overcoming obstacles that money
> >> or
> >>>sponsorship does allow. IMHO.
> >>>     The raw numbers of competitors is low enough without making a new
> >>>group of sponsored pilots. But it might help if sponsored pilots were
> >> only
> >>>allowed in the Masters & FAI classes if there ever was a need to
> >> address
> >>>the issue.
> >>>
> >>>                  Del
> >>>           nsrca - 473
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   ----- Original Message -----
> >>>   From: Nat Penton
> >>>   To: NSRCA Mailing List
> >>>   Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 5:29 PM
> >>>   Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   The sponsored pilot received his sponsorship because of his skill
> >> and
> >>>dedication. He did not gain competitive advantage due to the
> >> sponsorship.
> >>>It is a priviledge and opportunity to be able to fly alongside this
> >> talent
> >>>and partake of their skills and knowledge. It is one aspect of the
> >> hobby
> >>>for which I am most appreciative.
> >>>
> >>>   There have been infrequent critizisms thru the years wanting to put
> >> the
> >>>sponsored pilot in a separate group. Maybe "sour grapes" should just
> >> work a
> >>>little harder.
> >>>                                                   Nat Penton
> >>>
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