Electric F3A

[Anne et Xavier]

I could tell a funny story for the electric. In the last few weeks, it
happen twice that I went to the field with my pattern plane (glow) and a
"40 size" electric pattern or 3D planes plus a foamie, and didn't take
the pattern plane out of the car. I was having fun, only had to connect
the battery and go fly. I was suppose to practice the sequence. I even
got the comment today while I was walking to the runway for the first
flight: "already ready to go!?"

I am evaluating the power system for my new plane and I know the
electric setup will be (more) expensive. However, the cleanness and
simplicity at the field worth some money to me. If I don't need a backup
plane, it saves some money there too. I would go the easy way by
following other people's experimentation so I should avoid damaging
equipment. I will continue my evaluation but I may trick the numbers so
the answer is electric :-)

Xavier 

-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
On Behalf Of Del K. Rykert
Sent: September 24, 2005 4:37 PM
To: chad at f3acanada.org; discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Electric F3A **Klipped ** 4 reposting


Hi Chad..
    Thank you for your open and honest sharing of facts. It is
re-freshing 
to see some are willing to tell it like it is. Wish human nature allowed
all 
to follow in your footsteps.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chad Northeast" <chad at f3acanada.org>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Electric F3A **Klipped ** 4 reposting


> Del
>
> >I have never had a gallon jug of fuel catch on fire or burst in my
> vehicle or garage
>
> I think I have addressed these concerns as honestly as I could, and 
> what I
> shared with the list is 100% what I have experienced.  I have never
burnt 
> down my house or car or started a grass fire.  Lipo's just dont
explode 
> into flames on their own (at least not that I have seen, and I have a
lot 
> of them) !  User error when setting up the charger (cell count) is the

> number 1 cause of fires, to me this is akin to throwing a match into a

> gallon of fuel as its negligent not to check that your charger is
setup 
> right.  Thats what I mean by crossing your t's and dotting your i's
with 
> the electrics.  With the new Thunder power charger coming along with
their 
> balancers setting the wrong cell count should be nearly impossible.
>
> >I want to come out and have fun and relax when flying.. Not to chase
> maintaince chores and try to remember more details. They need 
> reliability
> and dependability of products that work all the time they way they
should 
> if you want to stay competitive.
>
> That is the great thing about the electric setup, at the field there 
> is no
> work!  I can head out to the field and pound through 4 flights (no 
> charging) faster than any glow plane.  There is no needle to tune, no 
> engine to start, nothing to clean, no header to break, nothing to
fuel. 
> Can things fail, absolutely.  As Jason said though the majority of
stuff 
> he saw at Hacker were from guys pushing outside the limits of the 
> equipment.  If you run a YS outside its happy place it will go boom as

> fast as an electric will!
>
> >Many used to having standing joke about need for 3 YS engines to stay
> competitive..  I wonder how many packs and chargers and need to have
> vehicle full of gas has to be addressed to be truly competitive and to

> have backups of how many backups..
>
> When I flew YS I did have 3 motors :)  I rarely used it but in my
> experience you were asking for trouble if you didnt have three, I did
have 
> engine failures in both Ireland and in Poland during the Worlds
although 
> it was always during practise and never cost me a round.
>
> I can tell you when I went to France I took 2 planes, 2 chargers, 4 
> sets
> of batteries, a spare RX, a full set of spare servos, spare 
> extensions/switches etc,12V power supply, and an array of tools.  I
didnt 
> take a spare motor (both Dez and Adam did), and the team as a whole (3

> people) took 1 spare ESC just in case and never used it.....I started 
> building my backup after I got back from Muncie, and I finished the 
> control linkages after we got to France :)  I flew it two flights to
make 
> sure it flew and never used it again :)  Both Adam and Dez never
brought 
> their backup models to the starting box, I always did but really 
> questioned my sanity as I assembled and disassembled it over and over
:-) 
> I saw other electric guys only bring 1 model to the starting box.  I
know 
> of two pilots who failed to start in the three minute time, 1 was a 
> two-stroke, 1 was a 4-stroke.
> As Jason said e-pattern is not for everyone, I can think of a few guys
who 
> I will recommend avoid it at all costs.....but its also not the doom
and 
> gloom of failures that some like to post.
>
> Chad
>

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